il Pirati:.

This sounds really fun! I hope someone with some videography skills documents the event.

i would have Anthony photograph this for sure. too cool to miss.

a few weeks ago i recived a email from sky(velo cult) asking if id be interested in doing a cargo bike ride and then possibly camping. within a few days of searching for a 30ish mile route that was somewhat flat that we could camp at we found the anza borrego jeep trails. during this time we were in the middle of a huge rain storm and with the trail being mostly soft beach like sand we figured leaving a few days after the rain would leave us a perfectly hard pack trail........link to full blog write up

On this subject, why couldn't we just build a temporary trailer, the size of a car, and have two cyclist pull it.

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Well...yeah. Perhaps that would be a small problem. Friction, gravity or impact..

Hmm..I have a solution to this, I know I do. how about 100 cyclist all taking small amounts?

thats great. San Diegan's need to see bicycles used for heavy hauling more.

hey Gregory, i don't have an answer to your question but i am stoked you bought the Yuba. you are responsible for us finally carrying these products in our store. we ordered three.

A major consideration is the time of day. My daughter and I took our tandem on midday last week, and a few of the members here have taken their recumbents when we do the Oceanside rides. I don't foresee a problem as long as it's not rush hour. The Coaster operators are more than helpful.

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yeah, the one in front of my shop is Jay Porters. that thing got some wild modifications. im sure Jay will do a post on it soon enough.

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I could see this as an excellent platform for a delivery/shopping vehicle. Why not attach a collapsible crate on the front, in place of the stroller?

I guess this is the right thread for this question:

So I'm doing some research for my next (read: someday) bike project and I think I'd like to put a porteur rack on the front. What is best practice for securing the rack to the fork? It looks like the Velo-Orange and Pass and Stow racks require a brazed-on fork mounting bracket built onto the fork, while the Cetma racks looks like they can be affixed via the front axle. Which is best? Any experience with either? I'd like to know whether I should be scoping out bikes with brazed-on mounting brackets or not.

Thanks Mark, that's sort of what I was thinking too. Everyone keep their eyes open for a 58-60cm steel touring bike with brazed on fork rack mounts!

Yup, that's exactly it. It's the one on the leading edge of the fork that I need for a porteur rack. Most of the lower-end old steel touring bikes I've been looking at have the fender bracket, but not all have the dedicated front rack bracket, and because of the shape of the fork, the fender bracket doesn't work for a rack. Hence my difficulty.

Enjoy all your braze-ons. Since you're not using them, you should give a couple to me. :face-devil-grin:

Hi Njord, that one is for lowrider pannier racks.

Like these:

If you find a fork with these you should be able to mount a porteur rack there too. Might even be more stable due to the shorter distance and the fork support instead of just the eyelet.

batmick:Hi Njord, that one is for lowrider pannier racks. porteur rack.

So I can fit a porteur rack or lowrider rack - cool!
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Or this mini rando rack:

thom:I guess this is the right thread for this question:

So I'm doing some research for my next (read: someday) bike project and I think I'd like to put a porteur rack on the front. What is best practice for securing the rack to the fork? It looks like the Velo-Orange and Pass and Stow racks require a brazed-on fork mounting bracket built onto the fork, while the Cetma racks looks like they can be affixed via the front axle. Which is best? Any experience with either? I'd like to know whether I should be scoping out bikes with brazed-on mounting brackets or not.

As you might have seen yesterday, the Pass & Stow requires no special braze-ons (as Jan Heine discussed in his review in the Winter 2010 BQ). You need a fork crown hole, with brake or without, and eyelets at the fork ends. Front eyelets help, but Matt says its not necessary. I haven't used the Velo Orange, but I think its similar.

Probably the best deal is the Gamoh rack, which Sky can probably get. Made in Japan! $110! Pretty good deal.

Protorio:As you might have seen yesterday, the Pass & Stow requires no special braze-ons (as Jan Heine discussed in his review in the Winter 2010 BQ). You need a fork crown hole, with brake or without, and eyelets at the fork ends. Front eyelets help, but Matt says its not necessary.

Okay, I'm dense--so you're saying I could mount the porteur rack to the fork's fender eyelet and wouldn't need a dedicated front rack eyelet? Wouldn't the shape of the fork tube get in the way of attaching the rack?

EDIT: Ah, okay, I just looked at the Gamoh rack, and it looks like it has a built-in spacer so the rack can attach to the fender eyelet. I bet a similar spacer could be improvised to attach the VO porteur as well. I'd want to try to squeeze a fender in there, too, so maybe the fender strut itself could act as a spacer. Okay. Verrrrry interesting. Thanks Esteban!

Okay. It's settled. I think. According to this photo (and lots of others) I found on Flickr, it is possible to mount both fenders and Velo-Orange porteur rack (which I like best) on the fender eyelet of a fork that does not have a dedicated front rack eyelet. I assume the same goes for the Pass and Stow porteur.

Dunno where to post this...

I bought a solar oven (Tulsi Hybrid Oven) and had it delivered to work as UPS delivers during business hours. I really want to try to bring the oven home by bike (for smugness cred) although I may just ask a friend with a car or get a cab and bring it home or bus it over. I can ride it on mostly flat roads the entire length home.

I only have a rear rack and the oven is wide. I was going to rope the thing onto my rack but am not sure if that would work. Suggestions? Comments?

I borrowed the xtracycle from VeloCult after work today and then met up with my caboose for dinner. I was too excited to wait until tomorrow so I asked him to accompany me to my jobsite to pick up the items I wanted to haul home. So we brought home 11 bottles of wine and 48 rolls of toilet paper (I buy nearly everything in bulk to get discounts - I brought 1 bottle home earlier in the week). I rode the bike and I am surprised at how well it handled. The bike is very stable and really fun to ride.

Also happy that no one honked or angrily buzzed us or yelled at us. I deliberately rode on University the entire length home to City Heights from Hillcrest and I had zero bad interactions. It is true Thom was protecting us for a while, but even afterward it was nice.

The bike is a real joy. Tomorrow morning I will haul home the solar oven.

Thanks for letting me borrow the bike, Sky. Xtracycle is awesome!

Photos? I always like to see how creative people get with bungee cords.

I saw your Surly in VC this morning and thought, "She must be having too much fun on that Xtracycle". haha

Sam. Welcome to the club. Once you've hauled stuff on the X, the adventure begins... What or who would I carry next?

I'd like to check out that oven one of these days.

How about that bike move?

the hard part is done