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New York City is treating wayward cyclists the same way a driver who’s racked up one too many DUIs might be: It’s sending them to class to review the basic rules of the road.
Cecil:Unfortunately, the brief stories on KPBS and channel 6 and some of the local print/web stories didn't get this message across as they focused on interviews with the SDCBC.Yes - the KPBS coverage was totally hijacked by the SDCBC - WTF?
svelocity:@Cecil - My mother and wife will never let me take a photo of them from below (a major faux pas). You should demand better on the next interview!! LOL...
All kidding aside, well done!!
Sigurd:Cecil:Unfortunately, the brief stories on KPBS and channel 6 and some of the local print/web stories didn't get this message across as they focused on interviews with the SDCBC.Yes - the KPBS coverage was totally hijacked by the SDCBC - WTF?
Sigurd:I noticed someone going around handing out business cards claiming to be with SDCBC telling news crews to contact him if they want further information. Seems they were trying to steal the scene of a memorial to further their own personal gains. That's just damn tacky and cost them a lot of respect IMO.Cecil:Unfortunately, the brief stories on KPBS and channel 6 and some of the local print/web stories didn't get this message across as they focused on interviews with the SDCBC.Yes - the KPBS coverage was totally hijacked by the SDCBC - WTF?
JSnook:I'd love to hear the rationale for Wiggins being a doper beyond "lance was a doper, therefore Wiggins is too"
Cecil:
The SDCBC came out in force and ran to the microphone. I feel like it changed the focus into a potential blame the victim mentality. Angel Bojorquez was an infrequent bike commuter who needed a safe way home from work to Escondido in the early morning. He needed a safe transit corridor of they type that the Coalition has consistently failed to support
VeloCafé:Sigurd:I noticed someone going around handing out business cards claiming to be with SDCBC telling news crews to contact him if they want further information. Seems they were trying to steal the scene of a memorial to further their own personal gains. That's just damn tacky and cost them a lot of respect IMO.Cecil:Unfortunately, the brief stories on KPBS and channel 6 and some of the local print/web stories didn't get this message across as they focused on interviews with the SDCBC.Yes - the KPBS coverage was totally hijacked by the SDCBC - WTF?
Kathy:I'll take the blame for that one. I encouraged Andy to give his business card to the reporters in case they were working on any other bike stories. It wasn't meant as a sign of disrespect or to steal the scene. I blew it - my apologies.Hey Kathy - appreciate it; it takes a lot of chutzpah to stand up and accept responsibility for anything gone wrong!
Sigurd:Kathy:I'll take the blame for that one. I encouraged Andy to give his business card to the reporters in case they were working on any other bike stories. It wasn't meant as a sign of disrespect or to steal the scene. I blew it - my apologies.Hey Kathy - appreciate it; it takes a lot of chutzpah to stand up and accept responsibility for anything gone wrong!
Serge2:
Anyone interested in more details about the source for specific suspicions about Wiggins and his Sky team might want to read this thread at The Clinic forum on cyclingnews.com.
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=17412
Warning: that discussion started in June and is now over 430 pages long. I presume we don't want to have a similar one here.
HMeins:If this is so, then that is even less of a reason to go after Armstrong ex post facto. Why isn't Vinokourov on the list?
HMeins:
If an athlete has never tested positive for banned substances, what is the rationale for accusing him?
HMeins:
The point is this: if we ban the entire peloton from racing based on a Napoleonic Law accusation that since they are professionals they must have doped (witch hunt), what happens to the sport? If we throw the baby out with the bathwater, where do we start anew? At some point the hysteria has to stop and we have to get on with competition.
HMeins:
If we assume that athletes are four to five years ahead of the testing process, the only fair and consistent metric for an accusation is the presence of a positive test.
HMeins:
Intimidating associates into turning in their peers by threatening to ruin their careers is specious since the resulting testimony is obtained under duress. I'm not an attorney, but I do have a sense of fairness based on logic and the rule of law. As Thomas Paine said, arguing with people who have renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.
lisi:Let's let that discussion stay there then. I hardly think you or anyone else on this forum is qualified to make accusations. Looks like it might be time to agree to disagree. Perhaps there are more interesting things in the news to report on... Or maybe we should get out from in front of the computer screens and ride a bit more or at least get some fresh air.Seconded. There are indeed other news out there more relevant to the San Diego bicyclists. Let's stop making hollow, unfounded, and speculative accusations and assumptions, and instead go ride our bicycles.
HMeins:Supressing civil free discussion on a discussion board is as anathema as joining the torch and pitchfork crowd. Perhaps, as with the Vehicular Cycling discussion, we need to consider creating a new thread to discuss cheating in sport (which might also include such local subjects as sitting out a lap on the backside of an understaffed criterium course), or perhaps even move it to the bicycle racing thread. I'd be good with either of those choices.
HMeins:Supressing civil free discussion...Nobody's suppressing anything - the suggestion is that the marginal utility of debating this subject any longer is quickly diminishing, and that debating it incessantly in a "News" thread detracts from the intended purpose of the thread.
HMeins:Supressing civil free discussion on a discussion board is as anathema as joining the torch and pitchfork crowd. Perhaps, as with the Vehicular Cycling discussion, we need to consider creating a new thread to discuss cheating in sport (which might also include such local subjects as sitting out a lap on the backside of an understaffed criterium course), or perhaps even move it to the bicycle racing thread. I'd be good with either of those choices.
But my question remains: [snip]...
HMeins:Supressing civil free discussion on a discussion board is as anathema as joining the torch and pitchfork crowd. Perhaps, as with the Vehicular Cycling discussion, we need to consider creating a new thread to discuss cheating in sport (which might also include such local subjects as sitting out a lap on the backside of an understaffed criterium course), or perhaps even move it to the bicycle racing thread. I'd be good with either of those choices.
Cecil:If Kant Were a New York Cyclist