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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 17th 2009 edited
     
    discuss tours you have done, tours you want to do, good routes around So Cal and products specific to touring.
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      CommentAuthorMhotai
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2009
     
    Yeah, i want to do some tandem touring with my husband around So Cal as practice runs for larger tours we have planned. My first big tour will be this Fall and will be the entire length of the C&O canal. We need some training runs before that though.
    • CommentAuthoruno-speedo
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2009
     
    Tandem touring?! Haha. That sounds like fun. What is the C&O canal?

    I want to drop it all and go ride in France. Cruise the streets, climb the hills, sleep in fields/barns, eat lovely cheese on French bread sipping on Kronbergs blah blah. One can dream right?!
    • CommentAuthorDavbu4
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2009
     
    Just to ride the northwest coast dodging tiger slugs and grenola bars
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2009 edited
     
    the C&O canal was the like a old school freeway where goods were towed down a narrow canal by horses. the all flat trail is 184 miles long and in beautiful country. i did this trail about 8 years ago. now however it's been linked with another hilly trail that starts in Pennsylvania making the whole trail now 318 miles long

    check out some photos here of the area. perfect in Fall.
    • CommentAuthorDavbu4
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2009 edited
     
    absolutely wonderful pictures I want to go. I've just rode around east county alittle not very friendly, nearly became a hood ornament for a pick up
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2009 edited
     
    you know to this day i have never toured on pavement although i wouldn't mind it. i've just searched every opportunity i could to be alone in the wilderness. i love off road touring. the C&O Canal and "Rails to trails" routes can even be done on regular touring bikes.

    rails to trails are when they rip up old rail-road tracks and make trails out of them. pretty fun and usually completely flat and easy. search google and you'll find them allover.
    • CommentAuthoruno-speedo
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2009
     
    that looks cool sky. how long are you giving yourself to ride it?
    • CommentAuthorDavbu4
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2009 edited
     
    I would like to find some good local trails
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2009
     
    [quote][cite] uno-speedo:[/cite]that looks cool sky. how long are you giving yourself to ride it?[/quote]

    i would say 6-7 days going slow and checking out all the small towns that we pass. then when it ends in DC we'll hang out there for 4 days since we have friends that live in the city.
    • CommentAuthoruno-speedo
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2009
     
    sounds cool. so you're planning on doing it on a tandem? how are you going to get the tandem up there?
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2009
     
    fedex. shipping that beast is $100 each way. about the same price as shipping two bikes. still not positive it's going to be on a tandem though. we may still choose touring bikes for this.
    • CommentAuthorTom@VC
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2009
     
    Woah! The C&O looks awesome! Looks like where I grew up. That would be really fun.

    Are you allowed to set up camp wherever you choose?
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2009
     
    you probably could although im sure you couldn't have a fire. if you go to campgrounds you can have a campfire.
    • CommentAuthoruno-speedo
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2009
     
    This sounds like fun!

    London to Paris bicycle route proposed

    Plans for a 218-mile bicycle route connecting London and Paris have been unveiled, according to a report in the Croydon Guardian.

    British and French councils hope the route, primarily consisting of traffic-free paths through Wandsworth, Croydon, Surrey and East Sussex before arriving at the Newhaven to Dieppe ferry crossing, will be in place in time for the 2012 Olympics.

    "The first cycle route was the Bristol to Bath railway path, which grew into the national cycle network, so why not connect a route from London to Paris, especially as there is likely to be pressure on our transport networks during the Olympics," said Shasha Khan, a Croydon Green Party member. "This is a novel idea and I would welcome any projects that encourage people to leave the car at home and get on their bike."

    Cost estimates for the British side of the route are expected to reach £30m, but European Union funding may be available, which would include signs in both English and French.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2009
     
    i'd do that route with you Nik.
    • CommentAuthoruno-speedo
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2009
     
    Hell yeah dude. We could stop in every town and have a pint!
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2009
     
    wouldn't have it any other way. you can't flake out though. :face-devil-grin:
    • CommentAuthoruno-speedo
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2009
     
    There's only 53000 pubs in England! Me, flake?!?!
    • CommentAuthorsurlygurl
    • CommentTimeJan 24th 2009
     
    My first (and only) tour was in New Zealand in 2007. It was a tour of the west coast --6 days of riding, with support, and we stayed in motels along the way. It was great and I really want to do another, maybe this year maybe next. I have no idea where, though, there are so many places I'd love to ride. Hoping to meet others here who'd like to tour, even just short ones.

    Here are some pix from NZ.
    fog

    from my hotel

    fence

    beautiful view
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 24th 2009
     
    oh man, i want to buy my plane ticket right now to NZ.

    at some point here we should plan some small one or two nighters around SD.
    • CommentAuthorProtorio
    • CommentTimeJan 24th 2009
     
    I'd be *all for* a one night camping ride.
    • CommentAuthorsurlygurl
    • CommentTimeJan 24th 2009
     
    I forgot to mention that the tour was on the South Island (if anyone was wondering). It's a great place if you enjoy the outdoors.

    A local 1 or 2-nighter would be fun. I don't know if there is a bike-friendly route up to Laguna Beach, but that's something I've thought about doing. Hopefully more people will chime in here and make some suggestions for good day or 1-2 night trips.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 24th 2009
     
    one that i wanted to do was to ride to Jamul, ride town the Chorizo Gorge railroad (illegal), get to the desert floor, take the desert north, go up to Julian and then back home. that would be maybe a two nighter.
    • CommentAuthoruno-speedo
    • CommentTimeJan 24th 2009
     
    Wow those photos look great. I miss the green countryside.
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      CommentAuthortawnya
    • CommentTimeJan 24th 2009
     
    I'm trying to plot out a nice, easy day trip. I happen to really enjoy Bombay Beach and Salvation Mountain. This is a great time of year to do it, too. But mostly, I want to do something fairly easy, so I can get a feel for touring. The thing is that I have to get it going ASAP before summer kicks in.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 24th 2009
     
    yeah, before any big tour you should do several small one or two night tours that are relatively easy. you need to build up the muscles and learn what gear works for you. for instance you don't want to commit to a week long trip unless you already know you have the correct shorts, saddle, and clothes for comfort. on the other end you need to know what gear to bring and most importantly what not to bring.
    • CommentAuthorEndorphin
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2009
     
    There's gotta be more people in SD that have toured! Lets see more photos!
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      CommentAuthorsvelocity
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2009
     
    Can someone post some local San Diego County routes that include camping?
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2009
     
    i suppose the most typical one would be the coast route which is part of the route that goes from Canada to Mexico. take the train to Orange county and sleep at one of the numerous campgrounds near the coast. ride that to the the Mexican border. that would be a easy on night route.
    • CommentAuthorsurlygurl
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2009
     
    It's been awfully quiet in here, I think we need to get the discussion going again. I'm trying to come up with another tour to do, probably later in the year. Australia was one thought, anyone ever toured there? or I might stay closer to home, haven't quite decided, and thought of Washington or Oregon or even the California wine country. They all sound good, it's hard to decide...
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      CommentAuthorWilliam
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2009
     
    <blockquote><cite> Velo Cult:</cite>oh man, i want to buy my plane ticket right now to NZ.

    at some point here we should plan some small one or two nighters around SD.</blockquote>


    This sounds pretty interesting.
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      CommentAuthorWilliam
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2009
     
    <blockquote><cite> Velo Cult:</cite>i suppose the most typical one would be the coast route which is part of the route that goes from Canada to Mexico. take the train to Orange county and sleep at one of the numerous campgrounds near the coast. ride that to the the Mexican border. that would be a easy on night route.</blockquote>

    It's more off road than not, but Anza Borrego area has plenty of open country that is good for camping. You can ride from Stagecoach Wells to Split rock via some of most amazing sights this side of the MOON. Miles, of not much. Many areas are BLM land, and open to camp fires, etc. It is a cool area.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2009
     
    my plans if my clavicle heal are to do a the Montana leg of the Great Divide, one or two local tours, an Oregon tour and then the C&0 Canal in the fall. i want to go tour crazy. at the moment i can't do anything though.
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      CommentAuthorWilliam
    • CommentTimeFeb 6th 2009
     
    You were pretty medicated the last time I saw you, that was a few days after it happened.
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      CommentAuthoril Pirati
    • CommentTimeFeb 7th 2009
     
    Has anyone ever done the Colorado Trail? I've dreamed about that ride since I was a kid. Crosses the Continental Divide 5 times, I believe. Over 500 miles from Denver to Durango.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeFeb 7th 2009
     
    i've never done it although i would love to. i tried to do the Kokopelli trail once from Fruita Colorado to Moab Utah but it got the best of me. it's the only tour i had to bow out of. got heat stroke out in the baking desert.

    i would also want to do the entire Great Divide trail one day. thats over 3000 miles and crosses the Continental Divide 28 times!
    • CommentAuthorTom@VC
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th 2009
     
    I'd like to go on a tour but my boss is a slave driver.
    HA HA

    Just from what I've seen in this thread, I'd really like to do the C&O. Nice hard pack and along a river. Reminds me of when I was a kid.:face-crying:
    • CommentAuthorLHT
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2009
     
    This is a great time of year for touring Anza Borrego. Head out through El Cajon and pick up the old Highway 80 E, it dumps you onto 8 E up the hill (bikes ok along the hill here) get off at 79 N, stay headed east on the old 80 toward Pine Valley. You stay on old 80 E crossing back and forth under and over 8 E. Out past Jacumba at Incopah you get forced back onto the 8 headed down to Anza Borrego. This is one of the best down hills in the U.S. between here and the east coast. You can make a huge loop north up through Anza Borrego and head back to San Diego on the 78 at Scissors Crossing. Plenty of open camping, water at a few stores and campgrounds, very peaceful 3 or 4 day loop during mid-week. Short version for one or two nights of camping is loop back west by going straight up the 79N through Cuyamaca State Park. All CA state parks have "Hike N' Bike" spots for bicycle camping which means even if the park is full, a cyclist or backpacker must be given a spot somewhere, at about $5 per night. I've been given camping spots in the Day Use area and told to set up my tent after dark by the ranger, and sometimes its a better spot than the camp ground. This works great for the coast in the summer when the campgrounds are packed, a cyclist still gets in.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2009 edited
     
    thats the trip i was planning before i broke myself. the only difference was that i was going to include Carrizo Gorge in my route. The Carrizo Gorge is a stretch of train tracks that has the most tunnels and tressels of any piece of track in the world. it also has the Goat Canyon Tressel that which is the largest curved wood tressel in the world.



    Photos of Carrizo Gorge
    • CommentAuthorLHT
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2009
     
    Busted up in Corrizo Gorge, a bad day. I've hiked the length of the gorge along the tracks from off Route 8, down that dirt road at the Jacumba exit, a nice run it is along the 12 miles to Dos Cabesas Mine Road which drops onto S2. It would make a good morning cruise on a mountain bike because is slopes gently downhill all the way. Pretty passable in most spots by bike, take an extra tube, good pump, and water. Wouldn't be much fun on a loaded bike unless you're content to push in a few spots and go slow along the sometimes rocky single track that follows the rails. Nowadays I've heard it is patrolled more often than years ago when they almost abandoned it. The bright ones have decided to bring sand up from Mexico along those rails for the cement industry. I picture the engineer getting off the train to walk beside as they cross the gorge on the wooden trestle. They've wondered for years how to make money out of it. Edward Abbey would have a few words for them. It would be cool to organize a ride down there, but it would have to be low key, and with pick-up cars down at Dos Cabesas.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2009
     
    i've done the gorge twice now and love it. it's so scenic. it will be difficult loaded down but im game. i just think it would fun to camp at Goat Canyon.
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      CommentAuthoril Pirati
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2009
     
    Any suggestions on tents and sleeping bags for touring? I don't want to spend a ton, but I don't want a 10 lbs tent either. I'm thinking three-season versatility. I need to buy one this week prior to TOC Palomar Mt. I'd like something I can do some touring with later on.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2009
     
    when i bike tour i use one man 3 season tents. light weight is the name of the game with everything. also, things that pack very very small. one man tents are great for this. if it's two people on the tour you can get a two man but personally i like having my own tent.
    • CommentAuthorLHT
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2009
     
    The best mid price tent going is the MSR Hubba for a single person, and the MSR Hubba Hubba model for two people. Both set up easy in the dark or in windy conditions. They stake out tight without a lot of wind flap, and have an excellent fly to keep the rain out. They are light and well made too. Great for backpacking, or the bike. If you're into super light weight and super cheap,there are a few "tarp tents" out there without a tent floor or fly that keep the rain off and help keep you warm. The Black Diamond Mega Mid is one, down fall is no floor equals the occasional uninvited spider, and in the summer you can't close up against mosquitos without getting steamed inside. Tarp designs are basically high mountain tents. If budget is real tight an REI brand tent, or the Campmor catalog sometimes has great deals on top end gear. Good luck, hope this helps.
    • CommentAuthorDavbu4
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2009
     
    Does anyone belong to the adventure cycling association?
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2009
     
    i just joined again.
    • CommentAuthorDavbu4
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2009
     
    I requested some info and plan to fit out my univega for some adventures and hopefully get my wife interested too.
    • CommentAuthorProtorio
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2009
     
    If anyone wants to post routemaps, that would be cool - like Bikely or something like that. I want to get my head around some of these off road long distance (1 or 2 day) rides.
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      CommentAuthorsvelocity
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2009 edited
     
    il Pirati:Any suggestions on tents and sleeping bags for touring? I don't want to spend a ton, but I don't want a 10 lbs tent either. I'm thinking three-season versatility. I need to buy one this week prior to TOC Palomar Mt. I'd like something I can do some touring with later on.


    Though I haven't bike toured with it I've camped in it plenty and it's awesome.

    http://www.hennessyhammock.com/

    Yes, I know what you are thinking. "I can't sleep in a hammock!" Trust me, you can sleep in this one! You actually lay on a diagonal since the hammock is asymmetrical. Since you are laying across the grain it's very flat. I've taken this thing on surf trips up the coast and 7 day canoe trips in the BWCA and it's awesome. Rain, high winds, cold...no problem. It's really light and very packable since it has no poles. Trees help but you can figure out creative ways to hang it if none are around. Needless to say, I love it!