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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2009 edited
     
    Discuss the pro's and Con's of BOB trailers.

    for me these are the only way to tour off road which is the majority of the touring i do. here's a couple of photos of me and my BOB in action on a day trip to the bay.


    • CommentAuthorjebiker
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2009
     
    Sky, what kind of trailer is that?

    Looks like a custom BOB? I have a BOB w/ a 20" wheel.

    They come in handy.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2009
     
    ah, good eye. it's a BOB that i customized. it now has a 20" mini wheel, track bike drop outs, stiffened up rear end and host of other things. my design fixed a host of problems that BOB trailers have for serious off road tourers. with this design there's no need for the suspension model either.

    oh, and that bag is the only one of it's kind and pretty darn cool. it was a prototype bag from a company and they never made went though with making any others.

    so far i've done some pretty aggressive trails and the trailer has been flawless. sadly i have not had it out for the past few years though.
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      CommentAuthorWilliam
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2009
     
    Is there a huge learning curve for riding with a bob?
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2009
     
    none at all. just start riding. the trailer wheel follows your back wheel. the height of the trailer is the same height as your chainrings. the width of the trailer is about the same as the width of your feet on the pedals. the only thing is it's hard to hammer out of the saddle. it's best to stay seated while pedaling. you can stand if you don't pedal just fine. other than that it feels perfectly normal. for off road use to me it's the same as backpacking although you cover more miles, you have gearing to help you and you don't have sore feet, shoulders and back when the day is over. it just feels like you had a good long ride. then you put up your tent in a beautiful remote location and enjoy every second of it. off road touring is some of the most fun i've ever had on bikes.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2009
     
    oh, and FixedSD, you are welcome to borrow mine whenever you want. it just sits there 99.9% of the time so im happy to see it being used.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeOct 2nd 2009 edited
     
    i just found another photo of my touring on with my customized BOB. this is me trying to piece together the Sea to Sea trail. what ever happened to that trail? did they give up on it? Del Mar to the Salton Sea
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 5th 2010
     
    anyone out there have a Bob trailer? in the next few weeks i will be doing a off road bike tour and want to know if others want to join in. im thinking only 30-40 miles a day so nothing too extreme. just want to get a few overnight tours in to make sure i have my bike and gear dialed in for some larger trips planned later on. the two day, one night tours would be on typical difficult terrain so a solid mountain bike, Bob trailer, and some mountain bike skills are needed.
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    ^sky i want to give something likt that a shot on my xtracycle sometime. you ever take any routes that would be long bike savy?
    i get sundays and mondays off:face-monkey:
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 6th 2010
     
    hey Brian, sure we can do that sometime too. see if you can link together a bunch of fire roads and double track for a one nighter and we'll go do it. that would be do-able with a rack and pannier system too.
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    cool, ill see what i can come up with.
    • CommentAuthormfutch
    • CommentTimeJun 9th 2010
     
    Hey,

    I just bought a BOB trailer off craigslist and discovered that the skewer for the BOB is wider by about an 1/8th of an inch than my bike will fit. Anyone run into this problem? I tried some washers but I think they were too wide because it wouldn't tighten up. If anyone has some suggestions I'd love to hear 'em!

    -Michael
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    ive been riding with my yakima(bob style) trailer alot and loving it. its a trip how quickly i forget its there.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJun 9th 2010
     
    mfutch:Hey,

    I just bought a BOB trailer off craigslist and discovered that the skewer for the BOB is wider by about an 1/8th of an inch than my bike will fit. Anyone run into this problem? I tried some washers but I think they were too wide because it wouldn't tighten up. If anyone has some suggestions I'd love to hear 'em!

    -Michael


    hi Michael, sounds like you either have a mountain bike trailer and you are using it on your road bike you have a mountain bike and you have a setup for a tandem.
    • CommentAuthormfutch
    • CommentTimeJun 9th 2010
     
    Hey Sky, I've got a road bike (80s Raleigh Marathon), but the girl I bought the trailer from was running a modern touring bike with it. I heard the skewer could be sawed down to fit and the bolts where the trailer mounts flipped so that I wouldn't have to squeeze the trailer arms to fit it. I kinda would like to find a solution that doesn't involve cutting the skewer, so that I could swap it out and use it with a mountain bike). When I put some washers in there, the wheel was too loose in the drop out. This is the one I've got:
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    -Michael
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJun 9th 2010
     
    with a old 126mm rear spacing on your frame you may have some real issues. i don't think the threads on the BOB quick release go down far enough. you would have to add threads to the skewer. whatever you end up dong is going to require modifying. if you want to run it on both your 126mm road bike and 135mm mountain bike it's gonna be tricky. i would recommend that you have two skewers. one threaded down further for the road bike and one that is full length for the mountain bike.
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      CommentAuthorSigurd
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2010
     
    Velo Cult:with a old 126mm rear spacing on your frame you may have some real issues.if you want to run it on both your 126mm road bike and 135mm mountain bike it's gonna be tricky.
    How about this product?
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2010 edited
     
    he may already have that same skewer though. i think they only make one skewer. it sounds like there weren't enough threads and that's why spacers were needed. without seeing it in person it would be hard to diagnose though. or maybe his is an older skewer and that's a newer one. it's entirely possible because i was not able to put my BOB skewer on my road bike which was 130mm. perhaps they solved that issue by just adding more threads to the newer production skewers.
    • CommentAuthormfutch
    • CommentTimeJun 11th 2010
     
    When I tighten the bolts there are still more threads that can't be reached, so I'm guessing that's how they solved this problem. The space on the bolt where the trailer attaches is offset, so that if you turned those bolts around it the width between them should be about right to fit the trailer (you wouldnt have to squeeze the trailer arms to fit the narrow gap).
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    my plans of touring with panniers are morphing into plans or touring with a trailer more and more.
    • CommentAuthormfutch
    • CommentTimeJun 14th 2010
     
    Just took the BOB out for the inaugural spin. Had to return a cooler and some camping gear to a friend, why not take the bike instead of the Westy? Thanks for cutting down that skewer Sky, its working great!
    • CommentAuthorSam
    • CommentTimeJun 16th 2010
     
    Don't think I saw this posted here before:
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    dang, 85 miles a day with that set up is rad, especially 14 days in a row.
    • CommentAuthorslobiker
    • CommentTimeJan 9th 2011
     
    Lee and I were discussing this during today's DownTownie.

    Surly is marketing a new utility trailer available this Spring (max carry weight = 300 lbs):



    ... but at $750.00, this seems enormously expensive. I realize that with Surly you get more than what you pay for... but is this truly the best deal for the dough?

    What do you guys think?

    P.S. It seems that a trailer is a more economical route than a cargo bike (yet another bike in the garage) even at $750.00. But there must be other heavy duty bicycle trailers out there. A Google search turns up either (a) a selection on Amazon.com running maybe a couple hundred bucks or (b) some homemade looking things costing almost as much as the Surly. Very confusing.
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      CommentAuthormarkphilips
    • CommentTimeJan 9th 2011 edited
     
    Check out BikeRev.com for a more affordable alternative. The other option is to search CL for used kid trailers that you can modify.

    Their heavy duty trailer has a rating of 150 lbs for $350


    This one is rated for 75 lbs with a nicer tote bin $250. I use this model but I can interchange parts for the Samsonite luggage trailer when I travel with the BikeFriday folder


    This one is rated for 75 lbs for $200
    • CommentAuthorslobiker
    • CommentTimeJan 11th 2011
     
    I'm still very much in the "thinking about it" stage, Mark, and I'm considering your suggestion very seriously.

    I guess the right approach is to factor your application. That is, what exactly would you use it for? The Surly option is for carting heavy loads. They even suggest their rig would be excellent for carting a keg to some party out in the sticks and I'm sure that's correct. But how often are you going to do that? What other heavy loads do I foresee myself pulling with a bike. Furniture? Not planning on moving. A friend's furniture? I'd probably offer the use of the Jeep for these "once in a great while" events. Not a big carbon footprint if you're using the car only occasionally.

    I'm still "factoring" my application... nothing jumps out at me just yet.:face-sad:
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    Yes I'm late to the party here, but a couple days back I won the bid for a cargo trailer(similar to a BOB) for $58. http://www.ebay.com/itm/170700755155 It's rated for 90lbs, but at the price, I won't complain. I got it mainly for groceries and misc stuff. Not really heavy hauling. Check ebay for some good deals. It should be here later today, I'm tempted to see if it will hold a rubbermade container(to haul more shiite.) It comes with a waterproof bag and stuff.. I'll post pictures this weekend.
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      CommentAuthormarkphilips
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2011 edited
     
    I've been seeing many bicyclists from SF to SoCal haul this new urban trailer from Burley with different cargo: dogs, cyclo-touring gear, groceries, and many more. I'm curious as how it actually track and corner at 10 mph or higher speeds.

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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2011
     
    That's pretty cool actually. I think I'm going to stock it. It really does solve a lot of problems.
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      CommentAuthorsvelocity
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2011
     
    That Burley Travoy is pretty sweet but dang you are looking down the barrel at four hundred and fifty bucks for the the full rig (trailer and two commuter bags). :face-crying:
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    Burley Travoy start at $299 (trailer frame, wheels, and trailer sac). The accessory bags are optional.
    I compared it with other trailers in the market:

    Bike Revolution shopper trailer is at $249
    The heavy duty Bike rev trailer is at $350
    Bob Yak Plus trailer is at $359
    Surly Ted shortbed trailer is at $485
    Black Oak trailers start at $425
    Bikes At Work Trailers start at $ $450

    Most of the products above are manufactured in the USA which explains the high prices tag (Please someone correct me on this if needed).

    Of course, you can make your own trailer out from scratch or find something on CL or thrift store. Just saying that Burley has been making bike commuter bags and travel accessories for 30 years. So I trust their products and hold their value.
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      CommentAuthorsvelocity
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2011
     
    markphilips:Burley Travoy start at $299 (trailer frame, wheels, and trailer sac). The accessory bags are optional.
    I compared it with other trailers in the market:

    Bike Revolution shopper trailer is at $249
    The heavy duty Bike rev trailer is at $350
    Bob Yak Plus trailer is at $359
    Surly Ted shortbed trailer is at $485
    Black Oak trailers start at $425
    Bikes At Work Trailers start at $ $450

    Most of the products above are manufactured in the USA which explains the high prices tag (Please someone correct me on this if needed).

    Of course, you can make your own trailer out from scratch or find something on CL or thrift store. Just saying that Burley has been making bike commuter bags and travel accessories for 30 years. So I trust their products and hold their value.


    As I said it's a sweet rig and Burley is a very reputable company. However, I don't think you are going to buy the trailer and not the bags so the $299 price tag is deceiving. The shopping bags are $130 for the pair and the commuter bags are $160 for the pair. That brings the total to $430 - $460 depending on the combo you choose. If you choose both then you are looking at $590 and that's without tax or shipping costs. I love it and I think it's ingenious but I don't think my "commuting dilemma" as Burley suggests is that large.
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    I actually plan to buy just the trailer as it can be customized. I can even use my existing messenger bags, shopping bags, gym bags, tall trash bin or wicker basket to haul stuff in. I agree its not for everyone.
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    Re-use those child trailers. Those can haul a lot of cargo.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2011 edited
     
    That photo reminds me of the late Göran Kropp. If that name doesn't ring a bell then this is worth reading. Pretty amazing dude. http://www.theargonauts.com/archive/2000/020100_kropp.shtml
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    The argonauts website is fantastic!
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    Does anybody know of a trailer that stays straight when you turn our do they all do that? Not exactly straight but level I guess would be the better word. I'm new to the trailer thing.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2011
     
    All of the two wheel trailers stay strait up and down. Burley two wheel touring trailer for example.
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    Good to know, Mark had mentioned that as an option for the food delivery stuff for work figured I would get an idea of what to look into. Thanks.
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    When hauling stuff or kids with a bicycle trailer you need to be aware of turning speeds. In other words, slow down before the turn to prevent a jack knife scenario
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      CommentAuthorsykkelspruce
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2011 edited
     
    <blockquote><cite> markphilips:</cite>When hauling stuff or kids with a bicycle trailer you need to be aware of turning speeds. In other words, slow down before the turn to prevent a jack knife scenario</blockquote>

    I'm starting to realize that with the trike 2 wheeling in the turns. I think it would be better to have an actual delivery specific bike but I'm trying to figure out options that have a lower cost also so the idea sets in with the owners. I would like to see more SD establishments using bikes as a means of transport so I'm pretty stoked where I work is embracing the concept. I'm hoping it will inspire some other places around us to do the same kind of stuff.
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    The electric-assist would make it more feasible and efficient for delivery specific bikes in San Diego. Imagine hauling cargo 85 lbs or more + the rider + the cargo bike up the hills.
    • CommentAuthormfutch
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2011
     
    Anyone know where I could get the attachment/coupler mechanism for an Instep trailer on short notice? You can order them online, but I was going to pull my nieces to December nights tomorrow.
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      CommentAuthormarkphilips
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2011 edited
     
    I wish i could help you but I don't know anybody who has Instep child trailer or coupler



    There is an Instep trailer for sale on CL for $35 ---> http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/bab/2733130417.html
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      CommentAuthormarkphilips
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2011 edited
     
    Found this great essay about Bikes At Work trailer treasure: http://www.living-room.org/trailer_treasure.html.

    It works well with these amazing photos from Mark Stosberg on Flikr:
    Couch hauling
    new bikes-at-work trailer

    Hauling a couch and loveseat to the dump
    Hauling a couch and loveseat to the dump.

    Dad, I have some questions about this.
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    These guys even posted a short video when they moved a loveseat.
    Couch trailer
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      CommentAuthorbikingbill
    • CommentTimeDec 5th 2011
     
    Now THAT'S a trailer. Looks like it would do the trick for big stuff and would work on my bike too.
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      CommentAuthormarkphilips
    • CommentTimeDec 5th 2011 edited
     
    You will probably need a modified trailer hitch as it uses the rear triangle for the hitch.


    Rock the Bike has a prototype Gooseneck for the Yuba Mundo
    Prototype gooseneck Mundo hitch made by Bikes At Work

    Home made trailer hitch for the B.A.W. trailer or similar
    2009.11_trailer hitch
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      CommentAuthormarkphilips
    • CommentTimeDec 5th 2011 edited
     
    The SURLY trailer hitch yolk is probably more universal design and would work with the Bachetta recumbent as it clamps to both sides of the rear axle. Choices, choices.