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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2009 edited
     
    i realize CX is not a very big deal here in SD but perhaps with a little energy thrown into the mix generated by this board it can become larger in this city. in cities with a lot of bike culture Cyclocross is huge. anyone here like CX or own a CX bike? any steel CX bikes? show us your photos!




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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2009
     
    here's my classic steel Bontrager CX bike


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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2009
     
    oh hey, i just found out that Kelly is back in business! http://www.kellybike.com/
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      CommentAuthoril Pirati
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2009
     
    I bought my Bianchi Volpe so that I could race cyclocross if the bug ever hit. It would certainly take some modification from where it is now as a commuter, but I'd love to give it a shot.
    • CommentAuthorProtorio
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2009
     
    I'm building one right now - I've *never* raced a bike - well, I won one neighborhood race on my yellow huffy as a kid. But I'd be stoked to enter the lowest, suckiest class and give it a try next season! Pics to come as I gather the funds for parts.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeFeb 2nd 2009 edited
     
    Protorio:I'm building one right now - I've *never* raced a bike - well, I won one neighborhood race on my yellow huffy as a kid. But I'd be stoked to enter the lowest, suckiest class and give it a try next season! Pics to come as I gather the funds for parts.


    what frame? if there's one good thing about building a cross bike is that the parts can be fairly low end. they get beat up and Tiagra/Sora components do just fine.
    • CommentAuthorProtorio
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2009 edited
     
    I picked up one of the discount Rawland frames. More of an all-rounder, but can be set up with either 650B "27.5" with 58mm knobbies or 700c wheels with 35-40mm tires, for more traditional cyclocross set-up. I'm trying to use mostly used parts, and am having some success. I'd love to get back into XC and CX, if you catch my drift. This guy has one set up pretty cool:

    http://flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/sets/72157607364174687/

    Every time you post one of your great bikes, I don't feel bad about wanting another one :)
    • CommentAuthorTom@VC
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th 2009
     
    Cyclocross looks like a lot of fun and right up my alley.
    • CommentAuthorTom@VC
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2009
     
    It seems likes Cross bikes are a completely different animal then a road bike.

    Would throwing the fattest tires that my frame and wheels can tolerate hold up to some light cyclocrossing.

    Where could I find some trails for such a thing?
    • CommentAuthorProtorio
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2009
     
    Sky probably knows more about this - I've just read stuff. My understanding is that cross bikes have road geometry, and often use drop bars (but whatever works), and room for 30 -35mm or so cross knobbies. Cantilever brakes make that easier.

    But cross races seem to be real all-comers affairs.

    I run 33mm Jack Browns on my Romulus "road bike" and have been able to take it almost anywhere. Underbiking on road bikes garners some strange looks from most mountain bikers on the same path.

    I'm also interested in hearing about routes/trails....
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2009
     
    any trail thats not too rocky is good for CX. Sycamore Canyon would be good and of course the Eucalyptus Grove on UCSD. even rocky trails are fine but it will beat up the bike and you. i treat my CX bikes like trash though as do most people. ride them like you stole them is usually how it goes. you get cred for breaking things. CX bikes are some of the most wrecked machines you can work on as a mechanic. mainly because they are for racing off road in the mud and they use road bike components for the most part.

    just leisurely riding on a road bike with big tires is OK but for anything more aggressive get yourself a true CX bike. a CX bike has slightly different geometry, different BB height, slacker geometry, cantilever brakes for larger tires, and stronger tube sets.

    im hoping to start a underground CX racing series here in SD next winter. there will be cross-dress racing too!
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    Didn't the velodrome have a short CX season a few years ago? I think it was in November and they used the trails just west of the track.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2009
     
    they did. it was OK but the racers all complained about it. it's a good central well known place for races but the terrain is crappy for CX bikes.
    • CommentAuthorProtorio
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2009
     
    High bottom brackets! That's a key difference with road bikes. I'm all for the cross-dress rides! ha! never done that before.
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      CommentAuthorXO-1.org
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2009
     
    The only reason that CX bikes have high bottom brackets is because the toe clips would drag on the ground with a standard BB height after a crosser jumped back on the bike after leaping a barrier. There is no other reason for high BBs on a CX bike and, in fact, they make them ride worse. It's yet another example of the bike industry's stupidness that high BBs still exist when toe clips have been gone for 20 years.

    The only significant difference between a CX bike and a road bike is the clearance - to allow for all that mud which is common in Euro CX racing - and that is why they are spec'd with canti's. As we don't have much mud around here, and no decent cyclist goes out and trashed the trails by riding them when they are muddy, clearance is really not an issue (unless you have a "modern" road bike with about one millimeter to spare all around both front and rear tyres as most bikes nowadays stupidly have (thankfully, none of them for sale at VC).

    - End history lesson
    • CommentAuthorlawrence
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2009
     
    Underground CX races would be awesome.

    They had one CX race starting at the track this past fall (I think in october). It was pretty fun: you started in the track, then went around the nearby canyon trails. It was a pretty small-scale race in comparison to the socal-cross series (mostly in LA), but it was run well. I can imagine people complaining about that terrain (especially serious racer types), as parts are really too rocky for CX bikes and it would be pretty easy to get hurt. In fact, a guy racing in the 65+ cat basically totaled his bike. But man I was happy just to have a nearby race!

    As for the high BB on CX bikes: that trend has turned around (or at least started to), and many manufacturers are now dropping BBs on their cross bikes. I think they should still be a little bit higher on a CX bike as compared to a road bike because of pedal strike. The rough conditions and very tight turns of cyclocross courses invite pedal strike... in fact, i smashed off one wing of my left eggbeater pedal during a race last fall. But yeah, handling suffers.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2009
     
    i can't wait for winter to get here. i love CX racing. especially when it's underground.
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      CommentAuthorthreeflys
    • CommentTimeJun 14th 2009
     
    I can't wait for cross season, I plan on doing the socal series this fall as a complete noob... It looks like so much fun, just wish we had a little mud around here! Here is my current cross bike:
    My Cross Bike

    Chris
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJun 14th 2009
     
    hey! nice to see someone contribute to the CX thread. i love orange bikes.
    • CommentAuthorlawrence
    • CommentTimeJun 15th 2009 edited
     
    Cool bike! I have an orange bike too :).
    • CommentAuthordontbe10
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2009
     
    I wish there were cyclocross races in SD. I went to the USAGP of Cyclocross in Portland back in December and it was one of the coolest things I have ever seen.
    Here's my cx bike, I love this thing. It's perfect for SD with all the different trails and stuff we have around here. I can ride anywhere I want to with only one bike.

    Masi Speciale CX
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2009
     
    there may be some underground CX races this winter. totally free and probably on a weeknight at about 6pm or so. get your bike ready and get VERY powerful lights. we carry Night Rider lights at the shop (they're a local company in Kearny Mesa).
    • CommentAuthordontbe10
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2009
     
    great that's awesome, looking forward to it
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    I only found out about cyclocross last year, when I purchased a 2008 Fuji Cross Comp. Very cool bike. It is my "go everywhere" bike now. I'm going touring with it at the end of this month in Washington. I commute daily on it, go on Century rides on it, go to the store... Lots of fun. I have fun with mountain bikers when I go on single track trails. I have gotten some odd looks, more when I have the rack/pannier setup!
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeAug 12th 2009
     
    sometime around October im going to start a once a week Cyclocross series. this will be for fun/training. it'll be totally free and probably on a weeknight.

    so, this is a call for you to prepare a CX worthy bike and also to get very powerful lights like Niterider's (we order them in and they are a SD company). the lights are expensive but you need extremely powerful lights for riding at night.
    • CommentAuthorHMeins
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2009
     
    Nov.1- Storm the Beach CX - Camp Pendelton, Las Pulgas exit. Wide tires rule this race with almost a mile of riding on the high tide line.

    Dec. 6 - Adams Avenue Bicycles CX - Florida Canyon, start and finish on the Velodrome. I'm Chief Referee for this one.

    The Neon Frankenbike started out as a CX bike, but it's looking more like a randonneur machine now. Just added Bluemels Club Special fenders; Ostrich Japanese handlebar bag should be here any day. Maiden voyage Bike the Bay?
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2009
     
    that Camp Pendelton race sounds like a blast. i've done the Florida Canyon race before too and gotta say that was better on a mountain bike too. i'll be at both of those races for sure!
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      CommentAuthoril Pirati
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2009
     
    .

    I'm wondering if it's easier to get my commuter back into it's original CX config or to get my old MTB back into operation. Sounds really fun. @VC, How many lights do you recommend? I've got a NiteRider, but only one, and it's handlebar mounted. Will that suffice, do you think?
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2009
     
    a single Niterider is fine so long as it's one of the most powerful models (also most expensive unfortunately). a light that's underpowered will force you to ride much slower off road. lights for off road riding are brighter than car headlights and throw the beam much further and wider.
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    anyone know if the voodoo wazoo frame runs small or big?
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2009
     
    yesterday evening i had the most fun i've had on a bike in a long time in San Diego. Morgan and myself went for a Cyclocross ride at UCSD's Eucalyptus Grove. after that we blazed through the college grounds discovering new trails and just having fun. to finish it off we went Glider Port.

    sorry no action shots, we were having too much fun.



    it's not every day you see two Bontrager Cyclocross bikes on the same trail. "Dont Cross" hehe, get it?

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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2009 edited
     
    a buddy just sent this to me:

    "I got this press release from Shimano this morning. Cross season has kicked off and the press release announced that the first cross was won by World Champ Niels Albert. Nothing special about that, but he was riding a Dura Ace Di2 equipped bike.

    That in itself isn't that weird actually. I mean, last weeks weather has been good and it was more of a road-race than a typicall cross. Though, upon asking if this would be a one-time venture, the Shimano spokesman told me Niels Albert, Sven Nijs and Lars Boom all will ride Shimano┬┤s electronic groupo during the whole CX season...

    With this Shimano puts down all the critisism about the Di2 stuff being a gadget (it really shifts faster and more important, constant all the time!) and it would not stand up 'daily' abuse... Guess again, I would think..."



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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2009
     
    oh, and October 5th will be the first of the practice CX races at the Eucalyptus field in UCSD.

    these rides/races will be at 6:30pm every single Monday rain or shine (pray for rain). if there's ever foul weather i expect to see even more people out there. Cylocross bikes, road bikes with cross tires and mountain bikes are all welcome. it's totally free.

    what we'll be doing is gathering at 6pm or so and at 6:30pm we will all do a lap together so you know the course (very short courses). then we will start racing for 40 minutes. no judges, no prizes, and no entry forms/charges. we will start out this doing simpler easier routes and throughout the winter we'll throw in increasingly more difficult courses. the entire Eucalyptus field is very small so each lap probably will only take 3-5 minutes. spectators are welcome but participation is better.

    this is not sanctioned by anybody. it's just a fun once a week ride.
    • CommentAuthorprotijy
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2009 edited
     
    Velo Cult:sometime around October im going to start a once a week Cyclocross series. this will be for fun/training. it'll be totally free and probably on a weeknight.

    so, this is a call for you to prepare a CX worthy bike and also to get very powerful lights like Niterider's (we order them in and they are a SD company). the lights are expensive but you need extremely powerful lights for riding at night.




    I've been tryign to get a few people together for underground/practice CX races weeknights in SD with limited success!
    CX season is here! lets do this! maybe UCSD Eucalyptus Grove, San Clemente Canyon, PQC? lets meet up!

    Also really fun race up in Temecula 9/27
    http://www.racersandchasers.com/
    @Vail Lake Resort CX events will start at 9:30 on Sunday morning and we will be using a ton of the grassy area by the pools
    • CommentAuthorprotijy
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2009
     
    where exactly is the meeting spot? parking lot?

    Can't wait!
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2009
     
    in leaving town in a few minutes here but next week hopefully i can put up the map, directions and parking spots. then again, next week is Interbike so that can be tough. soon i will get it up though or have someone else do it.
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      CommentAuthordanarel
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2009 edited
     
    Ok, so here is a map and some more information.

    Meet Time: 6:00PM
    Ride Time: 6:30PM SHARP!Tuesdays

    What to bring?: Helmet and Lights!

    MAP & Parking: Meeting at the corner of Voigt Dr & John Hopkins Dr.
    • CommentAuthorprotijy
    • CommentTimeSep 19th 2009
     
    Rock on I'm in!
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeSep 29th 2009
     
    it's next monday when we start messing around with the cross bikes.

    i just got back from 4 days in Owens Valley taking thousands of photos. here's a single unedited photo to tease you with. im on my Bontrager CX riding on neat little dry lake bed in the middle of nowhere. we had to hop barb wire fences to get to it. i know, it's trespassing but the location was rad and we didn't harm anything.

    • CommentAuthorSagecoast
    • CommentTimeSep 30th 2009
     
    My new 1988 Bianchi Axis entry level cross bike. Drove to Hollywood yesterday to pick it up, needs some tires and love. Can't wait to get it on the trails and into some cyclocross. At 57 undergoing my fourth or fifth childhood, can't remember which. My Nyala is glad to have a fellow countryman in the stable.

    Got to love the Owens Valley. My heart lives there, I don't get to visit it often enough.

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    Velo Cult:it's next monday when we start messing around with the cross bikes.

    details?
    mondays are my days off so this might work out
    • CommentAuthorHMeins
    • CommentTimeOct 1st 2009
     
    Nice collection, Sage! Gotta love that Celeste paint job. It's good to see another mid-life guy on the forum. I just turned 53 day before yesterday. Each time I get a new bike I feel like I'm 25 again!
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeOct 1st 2009 edited
     
    danarel:Ok, so here is a map and some more information.

    Meet Time: 6:00PM
    Ride Time: 6:30PM SHARP!

    What to bring?: Helmet and Lights!

    MAP & Parking: Meeting at the corner of Voigt Dr & John Hopkins Dr.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeOct 4th 2009
     
    just a reminder that Tomorrow (Monday the 5th) is the first CX training rides at UCSD.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeOct 5th 2009
     
    Underground Cyclocross Mondays was success. 5 of us rode which is more than i expected. i think by next week it will be 10 and through the winter i hope the ridership grows and grows.

    i could only get one photo at the end which i'll try to post tomorrow. one of these nights i will setup our camera gear and lighting to really get some spectacular shots.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2009
     
    two photos from last night


    • CommentAuthorProtorio
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2009 edited
     
    So awesome! Unfortunately, I teach until 9pm on Monday nights. I'm all ready for something on my Rawland monstercross. Maybe one day. I must admit, I have not a bone in my body for competitive racing...but the spirit of CX is different!
    • CommentAuthorprotijy
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2009
     
    Uber fun!!!! In the dark def adds some trickyness to it, but can't wait for next week, I smell run up:)
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeOct 11th 2009
     
    a reminder that tomorrow (and every Monday) is Underground Cyclocross at UCSD.

    ONE MAJOR CHANGE to take into account is that we'll be meeting at Glider Port now. Glider Port is where you'll be parking (on the pavement). meet at 6pm and start riding at 6:30 sharp!
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeOct 16th 2009
     
    The Underground CX decided to move the ride to Tuesday so that the racers had time to recover after racing on weekends.