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      CommentAuthorbikingbill
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2012 edited
     
    I was thinking more about the accuracy and effectiveness of the classic 1911 ACP :-)
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      CommentAuthorbikingbill
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2012
     
    svelocity:I was hoping more people would comment on how (in the slow-mo) we can clearly see his head/helmet slam the concrete then slide for a few feet...or how without a helmet he would have been seriously injured...or how about the randomness of the event i.e., how we can't control what happens to us when we bike and preparation is the key.

    Oh well let's not talk about helmets and lets keep talking about how controlling the traffic would have saved the day.


    Yes, I looked at the slow-mo and the hemet did it's job. You can see him bounce off the street and then slide along it.
    • CommentAuthorStephan
    • CommentTimeMay 4th 2012
     
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    In the mountain bike world, there is no debate anymore. You just don't see serious mountain bikers riding without a helmet. This is because mountain bikers are expecting to fall, and they know if they fall, there is a chance they will hit their heads, and they know that if they hit their heads, they will fare better with a helmet on. This includes heavily tatoo'd rebels, etc. The downhillers wear full face helmets and body armor. But everyone wears at least a helmet. I know a helmet won't save my life in a worst-case or even a bad-case scenario. But I wear one almost all the time. If it's not practical for some reason (e.g. I run to pick up my daughter's bike from where she locked it and ride it home for a mile), then I ride without it--but I ride like a granny. I have personally had two (self-diagnosed) concussions from hitting my head while not wearing a helmet: one (bad) from skateboarding when I was 14, the other (moderate) from snowboarding 4 or 5 years ago (and I wanted a helmet--there wasn't one available at the rental place at that time). It's just no fun. A couple years ago I fell while riding 5 mph, while wearing a helmet. I was trying to throw a piece of trash away in a trash can while riding by without stopping, and somehow I got crossed up. It was an awkward fall and I ended up rolling down on my back and slamming the back of my helmeted head onto the concrete. My body was slightly bruised but my head was fine. No headache even. The crash was similar in form to my snowboard fall--rolling onto my back and then slamming the back of my head. But the snowboard fall left me with dizziness and headaches for a couple of days. I have three other personal anecdotes. Many years ago there was one guy in the group I rode with who just wouldn't wear a helmet. He didn't like them. One day he was riding around in circles while waiting for his friends to get their equipment together after changing a flat. He fell off going maybe 3 mph and hit his head. He ended up being airlifted to a trauma unit and almost died. He ended up ok, but always rode with a helmet after that. The second incident was about two years ago. I came across a downed cyclist who had lost control going downhill at about 20 mph. He was probably in his late 50s or early 60s--was riding a hybrid. He had been wearing a helmet and shattered it when his head hit the ground. He was not all with it mentally-he was able to describe the accident, but he kept asking our names, repeating himself, etc. The ambulance came within a few minutes and took him away. His injuries were serious enough--probably a broken collarbone, the concussion, etc. But from the nature of the fall, the broken helmet, etc. I have little doubt that this guy would have either died or had permanent brain damage if he hadn't been wearing a helmet. The third incident wasn't actually an incident. A long time ago, I happened to see JFK Jr. riding mountain bikes up in the Santa Monica mountains. He was with another guy (body guard?), they clearly had rented bikes and were just tooling around when they decided to ride up into the hills. No helmets. Also clearly neophyte cyclists without much in the way of off-road skills. Yet JFK Jr. hiked his bike up a single track trail and was planning to try going down a little steep section of single track just above the staging area. Nothing happened--he backed off when he realized he couldn't ride it, and I went on my way, while they went on theirs. A few years later they guy was dead, having killed himself and his wife while flying off the coast of Massachusetts.

    I understand that personal anecdotes don't prove anything. And I strongly believe that riding style matters more than wearing a helmet for overall safety. But I have seen enough to convince me. And the downside of wearing a helmet is pretty much zero, in my book. I have a "clean" helmet that I wear when I'm going short distances and don't want to get scummed up by my helmet. And I have "serious" helmets that I wear when I'm going on more serious rides (the kind that requires a shower at the end). That's it. The helmet is just part of riding the bike. I am taking a risk by riding my bike when I could just as easily drive for transport, or go to the gym for exercise. But the helmet is an easy risk management tool. People like JFK Jr. think differently, which is their right. But they also end up killing themselves and their families more frequently, because they are more cavalier about taking risks. I say if you don't wear a helmet, do it for your own reasons: you don't want to get as sweaty, you enjoy the wind in your hair, you care more about image than comfort. But please don't argue that not wearing a helmet is safer, or that the increase in risk is negligible.
    • CommentAuthorSerge2
    • CommentTimeMay 22nd 2012
     
    I presume this is accurate and hasn't changed much since 2008/2009:

    Ninety-one percent of bicyclists killed in 2009 reportedly weren't wearing helmets, the same percentage as 2008.

    Source: www.bhsi.org/stats.htm

    That means that the number of cyclists who wear helmets who are killed every year is less than 100, maybe as low as 60, nationwide.

    Of course, correlation is not causation. But I think it's interesting to note that the vast majority of adult "serious cyclists" wear helmets, and, yet, of all cyclists killed, only 10% or so are wearing helmets. This means that either helmets help significantly, or, that, the attitude that causes one to wear a helmet also helps avoid crashes in general, and fatal crashes in particular. Or both.

    Not sure how you would find out which it is, but based on my own experience and studying of bike-car crashes, I suspect attitude is a much bigger factor than the actual wearing of a helmet. In other words, the serious cyclist who doesn't regularly wear a helmet but still has the right attitude, knowledge and skills to avoid crashes (without mentioning any names like Sigurd) is the exception who is probably about as unlikely as a helmeted cyclist to be in a crash, or a fatal one.

    The other interesting thing is that these years are long after helmets had become mandatory for children in most (all?) states, and child cycling had been drastically reduced.
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    Anybody seen this Biologic Pango folding helmet locally? I'd like to try one if it fits. Their website indicated that it is not available in the US but can be ordered online.
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    Jon Cryer Feared He Had Suffered Serious Injury in Bike Crash

    "Two and a Half Men" star Jon Cryer feared he had suffered a serious injury in a bike accident on Sunday as he heard his helmet cracking when his head hit the road.

    "My helmet took the brunt of it, thankfully. I could feel the helmet cracking as my head went back. ... I could feel the helmet giving way. I was like, I really don't want to buy it."
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      CommentAuthorsvelocity 
    • CommentTimeOct 2nd 2012
     
    Since San Diego is moving towards a Bike Sharing program the question du jour is: Should these programs require helmets?

    Here's a discussion on NPR's radio program Here and Now.
    http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2012/10/02/lose-bike-helmets
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    Bruced by 5 minutes because I was collecting other information!
    AHHHHHHHHH.......the humanity.


    == I'm not wearing a helmet! ==

    Two stories from " Here and Now" with Robin Young on KPBS Radio:
    Cycling Without A Helmet? Mon Dieu!
    Do ‘Ghost Bikes’ Show Failures Of Road Sharing?

    Listen well and be safe out there.

    OKB




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    A link to the original article for posterity on this thread.

    To Encourage Biking, Cities Lose the Helmets
    By ELISABETH ROSENTHAL for the New York Times
    Published: September 29, 2012
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      CommentAuthorGeoff
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2012
     
    Rather poor straw man argument here, since PFDs are mandatory while boating in most jurisdictions.
    • CommentAuthorbilld
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2012 edited
     
    Not really a straw man. Note that the false requirement is to wear a life jacket when near the water; not necessarily on the water.

    Also, wearing a life jacket while boating is not mandatory in most of the U.S. that I am aware of -- including California.

    It is required in California to wear one for small personal watercraft (jet skis etc.) or being towed behind a boat (water skiers, wake boarders etc.).

    For boats less than 16 feet, it's required to have one available for each person on the boat. For boats 16 feet or longer, it's required to have some sort of floatation device (not necessarily a life jacket) for each person on the boat.

    The point was that the requirement is a bit ridiculous, which it is. It hasn't made Australian bicyclists any safer but it has helped to discourage bicycling.
    • CommentAuthorysa
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2012
     
    I feel like many of these discussions fail to distinguish between population level risks and individual risk. Perhaps at the population level, there is a benefit to not requiring helmets, but at the individual level, if you have the bug and ride all the time, you are probably reducing your personal risk by wearing a helmet. When it comes to my decision making, I'm not making population level assessments because the fact is that I am already riding and not sitting on my couch.
    • CommentAuthorsynthetic 
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2012
     
    Most helmetless pions ride at 8 miles and hour, the speed of a recreational jogger. It is a different game when you are going 3 times that speed. A helmet has saved me from severe injury multiple times.
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      CommentAuthorGeoff
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2012 edited
     
    Most helmetless pions ride at 8 miles and hour, the speed of a recreational jogger


    BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

    Try 47 MPH on this stretch. Or 40 MPH on this stretch. I have no idea how fast I was going here, but the brake pads smelled funny at the bottom. Or, hey, I ride 18 MPH on flat level on a Brompton for commuting.

    Don't make all lidless riders into the same old tired meme of drunken OB beach cruisers. I'm sure Sigurd would be ashamed to go 8 MPH UPHILL. Hans has probably seen higher speeds getting home from Balboa heading down Laurel. I'm glad your helmet saved you, but risk, speed, and helmets are independent variables. If we're just being anecdotal here, then I'd say the slowest people are those WITH helmets, based upon what I see in Monterey. All the tourists renting bikes are rolling along slowly, taking in the sights (not that there's anything wrong with that), and all of them are wearing helmets. The fastest are the CSU MB and Hartnell College crowd that ride single-speed (with backpacks) and no helmets. Only the Naval Postgraduate School Bicycle Club can outpace them locally, and they run peloton-style.
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      CommentAuthorHans
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2012
     
    synthetic:helmetless pions... A helmet has saved me from severe injury multiple times.
    This "pion" (peon, actually), would suggest you modify your riding habits by slowing down or increasing your awareness. Until that time, a helmet is a good idea for you. Many people around the world, myself included, ride every day at the same speeds as yourself, without dodging severe injuries multiple times. Ride safe out there, and above all, we must not judge others. Allow natural selection to run it's course.
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      CommentAuthorSigurd
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2012 edited
     
    Geoff:
    Most helmetless pions ride at 8 miles and hour, the speed of a recreational jogger
    I'm sure Sigurd would be ashamed to go 8 MPH UPHILL.
    I will limit my commentary to saying that I climb Nautilus (between Fay and Scenic), a pretty decent hill (1.4 miles, 6.1%), at 10.6mph.

    :)
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    Sigurd: I climb Nautilus (between Fay and Scenic), a pretty decent hill (1.4 miles, 6.1%), at 10.6mph.

    :)


    Every. Single. Day!
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      CommentAuthorSigurd
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2012 edited
     
    HippyOnaBike:
    Sigurd: I climb Nautilus (between Fay and Scenic), a pretty decent hill (1.4 miles, 6.1%), at 10.6mph.

    :)
    Every. Single. Day!
    Although mostly true, the fact is also that you ride in circles around me up that hill, Hippy!
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      CommentAuthorPaul
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2012
     
    Hmmm... so many "peons" on this forum, including the coolest bike advocate in town. I wish all of us would rethink the casual hurling of invective-- including one of us who posts many accurate comments on the UT from his FB account and then destroys any potential good will or persuasion by throwing in personal attacks and insults. Engage and persuade people - Ted Kaczynski had a lot of good points, but he didn't make many converts by sending bombs.
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      CommentAuthorsvelocity 
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2012
     
    I appreciate synthetic's enthusiasm for wearing helmets and I don't think synthetic meant to insult anyone on this board.

    I will agree with Cecil with the "engage and persuade" part of his post. Flinging insults doesn't get you very far in an argument as most people get hung up on the insult and don't listen to the message.
    • CommentAuthorsynthetic 
    • CommentTimeNov 8th 2012
     
    Please take into consideration my opinion on helmets being safe are my PERSONAL opinion and not reflective of any organization.


    Research has shown that those with helmets ride a bit more aggressive since they believe they have a safety net.... yes you will push yourself faster ; this may skew data on the accident rate survival factor. I like to hit speeds of 24-32mph on flats (dont care about downhill speeds- it becomes a skill instead of a workout) - I can vouch a helmet has protected me from more serious injury on many instances. All sanctioned races require a helmet... so why not get used to it?
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      CommentAuthorbikingbill
    • CommentTimeNov 8th 2012
     
    synthetic:Please take into consideration my opinion on helmets being safe are my PERSONAL opinion and not reflective of any organization.


    Research has shown that those with helmets ride a bit more aggressive since they believe they have a safety net.... yes you will push yourself faster ; this may skew data on the accident rate survival factor. I like to hit speeds of 24-32mph on flats (dont care about downhill speeds- it becomes a skill instead of a workout) - I can vouch a helmet has protected me from more serious injury on many instances. All sanctioned races require a helmet... so why not get used to it?


    Courage For Your Head

    There's no way I would descend as fast as I do sans hemet. And that's not good.
    • CommentAuthorSam
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2012
     
    Question because I'm curious. How often do you replace your helmet? Or, have you replaced your helmet?
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      CommentAuthorbatmick
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2012
     
    I do replace my helmet every 5-8 years. You can usually tell when the styrofoam starts getting brittle to the touch. The whole idea of the helmet is to convert impact energy into crumbling structure thus protecting the head. Styrofoam ages and looses that ability over time. Sucks to shell out for a new one when the old one still looks fine but I'd rather be able to depend on it.

    Also replace after every crash. Fortunately I only had to do that once. But the inch deep, two inches across dent above my left temple made me very happy to pay for a new helmet.

    For me a helmet is like the seat belt in the car. I get in, I click in, one motion. I put on my helmet, I get on my bike, I ride.
    • CommentAuthorsynthetic 
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2012
     
    I have only replaced one helmet so far, I had 2 hits in this one, but it looks structurely sound. I know some helmets are designed to crumple and are useless after one incident, such as some motorcycle helmets
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    I actually always on the look out for discounts and clearance on helmets. So I've got 5 to choose from (3 Berns, Two Limar). At the last swap meet, we found two new stylish Bern helmets for Gena. For Nicholas I have several helmets: 2 Nut cases, 1 Bern, 1 Bell bucket helmet that is used for skate boarding and biking. You can never have too many helmets around.
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      CommentAuthorSigurd
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2012
     
    Dustin has taken a Bern and painted it to look like a Stormtrooper helmet. Awesome!!!
    • CommentAuthorbilld
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2012
     
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      CommentAuthorHans
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2012
     
    billd:The Helmet Dilemma

    The best they could do was show someone with a facial injury? Pretty weak argument.
    Promote safe riding. Ride safe, anticipate hazards.
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      CommentAuthorSigurd
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2012
     
    Great article.
    • CommentAuthorsynthetic 
    • CommentTimeNov 22nd 2012
     
    based off that article, we can start an ad campaign on likely hood of you getting into a crash in a car, need for expensive medical insurance, etc.... and gain more cyclists!
    • CommentAuthorSam
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2012
     
    I agree, that was a great article.

    Here is something called the Hierarchy of Control

    Hierarchy of hazard control is a system used in industry to minimize or eliminate exposure to hazards

    At the bottom of PPE or Personal Protective Equipment (helmets, vests, other neon flashy clothing). Right above that behavioral change.

    At the very top? Elimination. Cars are the problem when it comes to cycling safety - not helmets or a bunch of classes. Physical separation is going to get the safety numbers up and collisions down.
    • CommentAuthorsynthetic 
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2012
     
    Green arrow up also should add in cost; Cars are the majority in cycling related accidents - but there are freak accidents that do occur with out them present - few deaths this year in cycling races with fully closed roads.
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      CommentAuthorsvelocity 
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2012 edited
     
    I honestly don't care if you use a helmet or not as it's your own decision, but the constant attempts to justify your non usage is hilarious.

    My favorite so far was the "study" that suggested by not using helmets cars will give you more room on the road. An average of a whole three INCHES if I recall correctly! Now another article suggests the city of Boston should not promote/advertise the use of helmets because ridership MAY go down. If ridership goes down we all are less safe. Really? You have any data on that or is that "conventional wisdom"?

    If you don't want to wear a helmet, fine... but stop with this nonsense.
    • CommentAuthorbilld
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2012
     
    I wear a helmet. I just consider it one of the least important things that I do to ensure my safety.
    • CommentAuthorSam
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2012
     
    Personally (based on anecdotes), I think the helmet issue is a wash. The data proves otherwise but we're not apparently interested in that. So be it. Anecdotally, I don't know whether it does or doesn't help and I did have my own head into pavement incident complete with subsequent ER visit to glue my head back in incident that happened sans helmet. I think this is considered a serious injury per statistical recording purposes. My own doctor said a helmet wouldn't have helped based on where I hit my head.

    There is the issue of risk compensation to be considered (I think someone mentioned above). I don't ride fast and I don't take chances. I quit doing group rides for this reason. Your social pace is not mine and my pace is annoying to everyone but me. And no, I do not want lessons on improving my cadence.

    The helmet debate is a distraction. It allows public policy makers and influential government bodies (like CDC) to make a shitty recommendations ignoring the larger problem (roads totally not designed for slow moving bicycles). Hence my posting of the Hierarchy of Control. The built environment is a top down problem and it needs to be solved via a top down solution. Helmets and then like are a bottom up solution.

    I don't wear it for several reasons including solidarity for the very poor and the fact that I do find a lot of passing distance by drivers when I ride. I've ridden in a variety of countries in a variety of urban environments and my only helmet wearing came about after my then-boyfriend kept nagging me about it. I more or less quit riding for several years in a large part because I found the act of dressing up to ride a bike to be a massive pain. The nation of Australia has demonstrated a drastic mode share drop because of their mandatory helmet law. From an advocacy point of view, mandatory helmets laws are a very bad idea if the goal is to increase mode share. If the goal is to keep mode share to a select 1% then it is a very splendid goal to aspire to.

    Here is what I would like. I have never (not one single time) brought up why anyone does or doesn't wear a helmet (unless prompted either here or via email and then asked to respond here). I frankly don't care. In fact I never noticed who did or didn't wear a helmet unless it was specifically pointed out. Yet, I have been constantly needled about what I do or do not wear on my head. I do not appreciate this because it is a very personal topic (what I wear) and no one else's. It's like asking me why I wear a Suzie's Farm baseball hat.

    I'm not going to mention this issue again until someone specifically asks me, but that's my reason.
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    Green Park Bike Station

    Don't let bogus helmet debate sidetrack need for masses more cycle infrastructure investment by government. Photo credit: BikeBiz Carlton Reid.


    • CommentAuthorsynthetic 
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2012
     
    I have a hunch that those who oppose helmets also oppose the california mandatory motorcycle helmet law and front passenger seat belt law of an automobile. Yes, we are the only state to mandate helmets, but we are also the only state to allow the more risky maneuvering act of lane splitting.

    I was anti motorcycle, and a 50 mile daily round trip to work via bike or commute via car (both in duration of 1+ hour) was getting on my nerves.. until I found out I could lane split, so I purchased a motorcycle - knocked my commute to 20 minutes. Here we have a trade off where in your infographic PPE allowed the Elimination of a rule.
    • CommentAuthorbilld
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2012
     
    Does every thread have to become a separated vs integrated thread?
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      CommentAuthorbikingbill
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2012
     
    I do believe there are studies that confirm the "safety in numbers" hypothesis.
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      CommentAuthorsvelocity 
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2012
     
    bikingbill:I do believe there are studies that confirm the "safety in numbers" hypothesis.
    Yes, I'm sure there is some evidence that by biking in numbers you as a cyclist are less likely to be hit by a car but I don't think it makes you more safe. I've gotten into more close calls with other cyclists on group rides than I ever have with cars.
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      CommentAuthorGeoff
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2012
     
    Synth - Your facts are incorrect on motorcycle helmets and lane splitting. First, by no stretch is California the only state to mandate motorcycle helmets. In fact, it's easier to count the states that don't have a motorcycle helmet law (Illinois, Iowa, New Hampshire), while there's a split on universal versus age-specific laws. Second, lane splitting is not codified in California, as well as several other states. Only a few states expressly prohibit it (Colorado and Nebraska, namely). This is a gap in legal language, and there was no law or code section to eliminate. You can do it because nothing says you can't, and California is perhaps the only state that officially acknowledges this loophole. You can lane split on a bicycle or a SMART car under the same premise, since the type of vehicle is not mentioned. You CAN be cited for numerous other violations while lane splitting in California, though (reckless driving, failure to signal, unsafe passing, etc.) Lastly, there is no causal link between helmet law and lane splitting. There is no trade off between elimination of a rule and PPE, as you assert.

    Here are some facts about bicycle and motorcycle helmet laws:
    Laws requiring all motorcyclists to wear a helmet are in place in 19 states and the District of Columbia
    Laws requiring only some motorcyclists to wear a helmet are in place in 28 states
    There is no motorcycle helmet use law in 3 states (Illinois, Iowa, and New Hampshire)
    Some bicyclists are required by law to wear a helmet in 21 states and the District of Columbia
    There is no bicycle helmet use law in 29 states. No state has a universal bicycle helmet law. Only 21 states and the District of Columbia have statewide bicycle helmet laws, and they apply only to young riders (often riders younger than 16). Local ordinances in a few other states require bicycle helmets for some or all riders.
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      CommentAuthorSigurd
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2012
     
    synthetic:Cars are the majority in cycling related accidents - but there are freak accidents that do occur with out them present
    This is blatantly incorrect - the research I have seen on the subject shows that the most frequent type of bicycle accident (AFAIR, in excess of 50%) is "alone" accidents, where cyclist falls or crashes without being hit by, or hitting, any other road user.

    FWIW this is information is part of SDCBC's road training course, IIRC.
    • CommentAuthorsynthetic 
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2012
     
    Ok I was speaking as in likely hood of death; some interesting facts while I was searching:

    http://www.bikesbelong.org/resources/stats-and-research/statistics/safety-statistics/
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      CommentAuthorSigurd
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2012 edited
     
    synthetic:Ok I was speaking as in likely hood of death.
    Aah - OK.
    • CommentAuthorgavilan
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2012
     
    Going on a tangent here but if I recall correctly, California does not allow motorcyclists to lane split.
    You "share the lane". ;)
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      CommentAuthorHans
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2012
     
    gavilan:Going on a tangent here but if I recall correctly, California does not allow motorcyclists to lane split.
    You "share the lane". ;)

    According the California Highway Patrol's Website, "Lane splitting by motorcyclists is permissible, but must be done in a safe and prudent manner." And therein lies the problem - what constitutes "a safe and prudent manner" is decided by the trooper on the scene. Bikers have little chance of convincing a judge that they were operating prudently if the citing officer is testifying to the contrary. Therefore, whether one can legally lane split in California depends upon what trooper is on the scene at the time.
    30 years of riding motorbikes in Cali (I'm the kind of person that likes to "share") without a ticket for it. Not the same case for helmet tickets though.
    • CommentAuthorgavilan
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2012
     
    Lane sharing sounds so much more safe and prudent.... :-p
    I never got a ticket for it either but then again I was never going too fast in relation to the traffic when doing it. I freak out when I see riders going twice as fast as the cars that are chugging along, changing lanes in the last split second without giving it a second thought (or a second look at the mirror).
    I do miss riding the motos but I love riding my bike too. Yeah!

    And back on topic, not that anyone should care, but I usually wear a helmet although every now and then I don't. :)
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    Today at work a customer got me very worked up.

    It started friendly, with him telling me he sees me all the time riding in the neighborhood. Just as I was saying, "Great!" he says, "without a helmet..."

    Most of you that know me know that I regularly wear my helmet. I ride about 5000 miles a year and roughly less than 10% of that time do I ride without it. Slower, more neighborly, less racy rides - like my <1mile commute, which is likely what he sees me doing.

    He and I traded back and forth a bit, getting more heated, with me goving some well reasoned arguments against wearing a helmet (yet still stipulating that I wear one 90+% of the time) and him continually proselytizing my need to wear one.

    All arguments aside, (and here I really just need to rant a bit) but what is it his F-ing business?!? No way he had some genuine concern for my well-being! Chances are he's more worried about a ding on his BMW or Mercedes or whatever and any risks to his insurance premium. He should wear the goddamn helmet while driving his little nazi sled. This person doesn't deserve to trade ideas with me about bicyclist safety and the efficacy of helmets, because his only experience is having cyclists slow down his overspeed commute through neighborhood streets in his 60,000 dollar sports car. Get out on a bike in the quiet streets of Bird Rock after acquiring a few years/few 10s of thousands of miles of riding experience and then tell me you need a helmet to get on a bike from the minute you leave your door.

    This rant is to say:
    Jason Meyer- go screw yourself. You know nothing and don't deserve the kindness I showed you in not giving you the beatdown you deserve.
    • CommentAuthorSmorg
    • CommentTimeDec 17th 2012 edited
     
    Sorry, Hippy. :o( Some people just like to be sanctimonious, I'm afraid (and many of them aren't that safe to ride around with, when it comes to that. Helmet or not). It sucks that he nagged at you even though you usually wear a helmet. One of my riding buddies doesn't wear hers 100% of the time... but she compensates by being exceedingly careful. Sometimes a bit too careful, mind you... It's almost dangerous being behind the lass on a long descent since she'll brake when she doesn't need to - and so when you don't expect her to. Luckily we don't usually ride together on routes with long descents, and so she is one of the safest riders I know. :o) Unfortunately for her, she gets heckled at a lot by people we pass on the streets... most of them pedestrians (tho a few cyclists have indulged in that, too). It's weird. I've seen many salmons blatantly riding against traffic or running right thru traffic lights and nobody said a word. Then my forty-something yrs old friend would roll along perfectly in her lane and obeying all the traffic signs and she draws endless grief over not having a helmet on her head.

    Ever since I had a mean concussion from banging my head falling off the bike at walking speed because my hand slipped from the handlebar when I hit a speed bump back in 1993 I've always worn a helmet even for short neighborhood rides. There are times I wish I could throw the helmet off the side of the roads, tho (riding up Palomar in mid-September heat or Honey Springs in late-August were two occasions :oP). Totally understand why helmets aren't welcomed by some.