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      CommentAuthorbikingbill
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2011
     
    I wear a helmet but don't have any problem if others don't.

    Mandatory helmet laws? I'm against it.

    Truth is, more lives would be saved if drivers wore helmets.
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      CommentAuthorGeoff
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2011
     
    ^^^^^^^^^

    TOTALLY AGREE about drivers being more at risk. 49% of head injuries resulting in traumatic brain injury (TBI) come from . . . (drumroll, please) CAR CRASHES.

    I'm a logic guy, so here's mine: Helmets are designed to protect the rider from a fall directly onto the top of their head at speeds less than 12MPH. The most common crash type is single rider falling off their bike, but this may be misleading. Those falls don't specify whether it's due to road defect, disobeying traffic law, equipment defect, rider error (I would assume this to be the majority), or some other factor. They also don't specify WHERE you land, either. It could be side, front, back, body, head or other. I doubt the top of the head is most impacted. I would be more worried about a side, face, or back of head strike (the last being the most significant). Lastly, bike accidents are GROSSLY overstated. Both the quantity and rate of crashes are far less than vehicle accidents, and I believe less than pedestrian accidents (don't have that number handy). I also don't have data on whether bike accidents proportionally result in head injuries than other types, but it stands to reason using the horse analogy - high center of balance plus object below equals head may come into contact with ground first. Horses, being taller, exaggerate this likelihood, whereas I think an outstretched arm may be first point of impact from a bike. Physics majors chime in.

    A helmet REDUCES RISK of TBI, it cannot eliminate it. Likewise, helmets don't PREVENT crashes; training, knowledge and experience do. If you are concerned about receiving a TBI, wear a helmet to reduce that risk. If you either don't care, feel invincible, or are in denial as to your personal risk, don't wear one. I wear one to commute to work because Naval facilities require bike riders to wear one. Also, statistically speaking, that commute involves my greatest risk (roadways, vehicles, time of day, etc.), so it works out for me. But when I'm just out riding, I tend not to wear one, since I'm a low-risk rider (i.e. I am in denial about my personal risk). If you are worried about crashes, ride more, take a class, learn more about safe biking, and critically assess your riding style and external risks.
    • CommentAuthormfutch
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2011
     
    I wish I knew how to program a bot to comment on every single news story about an auto accident with just the following question, "Was he wearing a helmet?" Or when a pedestrian is hit by a car, "Was he wearing a helmet?" Because lord knows there is somebody who does that on every single bicycle crash story. Such a loaded question intended to shift blame onto the cyclist.
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      CommentAuthorbikingbill
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2011
     
    mfutch:I wish I knew how to program a bot to comment on every single news story about an auto accident with just the following question, "Was he wearing a helmet?" Or when a pedestrian is hit by a car, "Was he wearing a helmet?" Because lord knows there is somebody who does that on every single bicycle crash story. Such a loaded question intended to shift blame onto the cyclist.


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      CommentAuthorthreeflys
    • CommentTimeNov 4th 2011
     
    all I know is when I went over the bars last year I came away with a concussion and a cracked helmet... I often shudder to think what would have been without the helmet and that's enough for me...

    my biggest pet peeve is two things... parents who don't make their kids wear helmets (there is a law) and parents who don't ensure the helmet is on right... once you're over 18, it's your own decision as to whether you wear a helmet or not...
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      CommentAuthorPacMUle
    • CommentTimeNov 11th 2011
     
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      CommentAuthorthreeflys
    • CommentTimeNov 12th 2011
     
    PacMUle:LOL! WTF!?! who buys this crap?...
    http://hypebeast.com/2011/11/bianchi-by-gucci-bike-helmet/


    fighter pilots who also ride bikes... :D
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      CommentAuthorHans
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2011
     
    PacMUle:LOL! WTF!?! who buys this crap?...
    http://hypebeast.com/2011/11/bianchi-by-gucci-bike-helmet/

    While still having a detachable visor, this model protects the face and neck as well.

    *I'm not knocking helmets... it's a personal decision. Just thought this helmet was fun/entertaining.
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    I really don't want to get aggressively pro-helmet; 'cause, as Hans and Sigurd can tell you, I totally respect the personal choice to <em>not</em> wear a helmet, but...

    And, this really has nothing to do with the previous posts in this thread...

    I recently read something online that seemed to insinuate (that word has a negative connotation that I wish to avoid...) that riding without a helmet was some kind of statement about the safety of bicycling in the area. Really, the gist was that helmet advocacy was an offshoot of motorist-inspired paranoia and therefor was a sign of an un-bike-friendly community (ie. the more helmet advocacy, the less bike-friendly a city is).

    I was really bothered by this sentiment; to put it mildly.

    Helmet advocacy, to me, is simple common sense. I <strong>really</strong> don't knock anyone who chooses not to wear a helmet. I just really believe that helmets on a majority (not all!) of riders are going to do a whole lotta good in terms of keeping more riders alive and safe to continue advocating our bike/life choices. Yes, in a collision with a car a helmet will not help you that much... But! it is so easy to crash accidentally due to inattention, poor road conditions, bicycle mechanical malfunction, etc. that most riders should really choose to protect that which is most precious and fragile as much as they can.

    Helmets never make you look better, as Sky once said (I believe). As Americans, we have a strong personal investment in our appearance and what it communicates to the world around us. NEVER let that ideology inform your personal safety. You cannot continue to express your personal beliefs if your tyre slips on a wet patch or palm frond and you end up as a vegetable or dead. Make the decision to wear a helmet or not your own. If you choose not to wear one, exercise the additional caution that is your due. Don't be 'too cool' for a helmet. I wear one, and I'm VERY cool :face-angel:
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    I wear a $20 bell helmet from walmart, with a mirror, a bright fluorescent yellow jacket since it's been getting dark earlier and quite frankly, I don't give a F*k what people think... I'm over it. The helmet holds the mirror which helps greatly in traffic, and the helmet will probably help in a fall.. What does bother me is the people riding facing traffic, with no helmet or lights(at night).. It's their choice though. I like to live on Darwin's good list. I know I'm a safe cyclist, I'm fine without a helmet, but it's everyone else that's the problem. And you can't predict situations.. unexpected things happen.
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      CommentAuthorbikingbill
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2011 edited
     
    Here's the presentation that HippyOnABike is alluding to:



    It is thought provoking, but I'm still wearing a helmet. My max speed this morning was 48mph and I was on the brakes. That's not like riding in Copenhagen on separated paths.

    Here is a Q&A with the presenter:

    http://thecityfix.com/blog/qa-with-mikael-colville-andersen-the-controversy-over-bike-helmets/

    His most quoted quote:

    We are scaring people away from a life-extending transport form by making it look more dangerous. The question that never gets raised is: why aren’t car occupants encouraged or forced to wear helmets? Or pedestrians? These two groups have a higher risk of head injury than cyclists.


    He DOES bring up some good info on helmet testing etc....
    • CommentAuthorbilld
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2011 edited
     
    Whenever you post that video, you should also post this rebuttal, just to be fair:

    http://www.bhsi.org/danish.htm

    It's not simple. People should weigh the facts for themselves and decide for themselves.
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      CommentAuthorbikingbill
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2011
     
    billd:Whenever you post that video, you should also post this rebuttal, just to be fair:

    http://www.bhsi.org/danish.htm

    It's not simple. People should weigh the facts for themselves and decide for themselves.


    To be fair, that rebuttal is from the Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute.

    It would be nice to have a independent 3rd party look into these stats. I do think the comment that automobile occupants have a higher risk of head injury is correct.
    • CommentAuthorbilld
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2011
     
    bikingbill:To be fair, that rebuttal is from the Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute.
    Who better to argue the other side?
    • CommentAuthorShady John
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2011 edited
     
    mileco:^^^^^^^^^

    TOTALLY AGREE about drivers being more at risk. 49% of head injuries resulting in traumatic brain injury (TBI) come from . . . (drumroll, please) CAR CRASHES.


    I think this is misleading because there are far more miles traveled in cars than on bicycles in the US. I had a hard time finding valid stats, but I believe the stats in the blog post (from the UK) below are probably about right. The conclusion, if I understand the stats correctly, is that you are about 35x more likely to be killed or seriously injured, PER MILE TRAVELED, on a bike vs riding in a car. (The post also has an interesting take on the issue of relative risk.)

    http://drawingrings.blogspot.com/2011/03/game-theory-and-risks-of-cycling-vs.html

    In making comparisons, we should also be aware that a good proportion of people killed or seriously injured while riding in motor vehicles are not wearing safety belts, or are themselves driving drunk. I haven't bothered to try to find stats on this, but I would wager that the relative risk (per mile) of riding a bike versus riding in a car is even worse than 35x for people who take "reasonable precautions".
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      CommentAuthorbikingbill
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2011
     
    I believe the fatalities per hour for cycling in the USA are on a par with autos. Of course autos travel faster, except in LA.
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      CommentAuthorbikingbill
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2011
     
    Yeah, here's the data I was looking for:

    Fatalities per Million Exposure Hours

    Skydiving 128.71
    General Flying 15.58
    Motorcycling 8.80
    Scuba Diving 1.98
    Living 1.53
    Swimming 1.07
    Snowmobiling .88
    Motoring .47
    Water skiing .28
    Bicycling .26
    Airline Flying .15
    Hunting .08

    Data compiled by Failure Analysis Associates, Inc.
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      CommentAuthorbikingbill
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2011
     
    As to miles .... since cars travel faster

    Autos: .016 fatalities per million miles
    Bicycles: .039 fatalities per million miles

    Traffic Safety Facts 1997
    • CommentAuthormfutch
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2011
     
    Living is more dangerous than bicycling. I'm giving it up.
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      CommentAuthorbatmick
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2011
     
    mfutch:Living is more dangerous than bicycling. I'm giving it up.


    My grandpa used to say "You only live once, but if you do it right that is enough".

    Screw statistics. Live your life!
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      CommentAuthorSigurd
    • CommentTimeNov 16th 2011
     
    Helmets create a lot of wind noise. When I recently rode up in the Cuyamacas (Cuyamca Hwy, Sunrise Hwy), it struck me that the wind noise created by my helmet carving through the air was sufficient for me not to be able to hear approaching vehicles - most of the time I had no idea a car was coming up from behind me before it was right next to me, often at as little as 30 inches away from my handlebar at speed differentials of 50 mph or more: It gives you an adrenaline rush, for sure!

    During my lifetime (let’s say two generations, rounding off) and a lot of miles on the bicycle, I have fallen off my bike maybe half a dozen times. Whether I wore a helmet for some, all or none of these times is irrelevant - I was lucky enough to never hit my head on the pavement (or anything else hard!) every time.

    I am not an anti-helmet advocate. Neither am I a helmet advocate. Why? Because it is a personal decision, and debating it is just about as uninspiring as religion. However - for me, trading not hearing vehicles all day, every day, for the eventuality that I may need my helmet when I fall off my bike (despite having had no such need in the past, and research showing the benefits of a helmet being marginal, at best) next time, is not a cut-and-dried decision! Gaining some level of future unknown safety by giving up a known safety right now isn’t necessarily a decision that is optimal for everybody at all times - and certainly not for me.

    And, no, getting a helmet mirror ain’t gonna happen for me, either - after all, this is a personal decision!
    :face-monkey:
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      CommentAuthorHMeins
    • CommentTimeNov 16th 2011
     
    The universe is a dangerous place. It's not safe out here. I'm going to stay home and hide under the bed.
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      CommentAuthormarkphilips
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2011 edited
     
    Moving creative helmet designs to here (and deleted from the Daily Photos)

    Gladiator
    Mini Bike Winter IV - Chariot Wars
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      CommentAuthormarkphilips
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2011 edited
     
    Creative use of colored ductape seen at my son's school.

    Did you know that ductape is now available in many colors including camouflage? Check out your local hardware stores for availability.
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    HippyOnaBike: Don't be 'too cool' for a helmet. I wear one, and I'm VERY cool :face-angel:


    Garth Algar's helmet is waaaay cool!
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      CommentAuthorHMeins
    • CommentTimeNov 18th 2011
     
    markphilips:Creative use of colored ductape seen at my son's school.

    Did you know that ductape is now available in many colors including camouflage? Check out your local hardware stores for availability.


    Also pink Hello Kitty duct tape.
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    This topic has been discussed before and I believe Copenhagenize founder also talked about this. But this is a good article noting "it is the design of our roads" that are dangerous to everybody in society.


    A Letter to the Women’s Institute – Mandatory Helmet Laws Will Not Encourage Cycling
    Whilst there are opportunities to improve training for cyclists and drivers, too often it is the design of our roads, particularly our junctions, which bring bikes into conflict with larger, heavier vehicles. Many of the high-profile deaths of cyclists, particularly in London, have been women riders who were wearing a helmet, and who were experienced – neither factors which saved them when they got hit by an HGV. We believe that safe areas for people to walk and cycle should be created, particularly in populated areas where people live and go to school or work or the shops. At present approximately 75% of all regular cyclists in the UK are men; we believe that focusing on creating attractive and safe conditions for riding a bicycle have a much larger possibility of enacting positive change within society – most especially for women and families - with all the wider benefits that increased riding will bring (less congestion, less pollution, fitter population etc).

    Mandating helmet use for those who are comfortable cycling in our present road conditions, whilst not considering those who would like to cycle but are too afraid is not the way forwards for a safe, successful and equitable society.

    http://thisbigcity.net/letter-womens-institute-mandatory-helmet-law-encourage-cycling/
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    I wear a helmet 99.99% of the time. The 0.01% is when it is a very hot day and I am climbing a long, steep hill at 3 mph. (Example: Torrey Pines inside the park goin' south.) Then I take off my helmet and hang it on my seat. (This is one of the perks of recumbents.) I figure that it is better to avoid heat exhaustion than worry about falling at 3 mph. Besides, how many pedestrians walking at 3 mph are wearing helmets? If there were a mandatory helmet law, I would still take it off at these times and argue before the judge that the law is making me put myself at risk for heat exhaustion or possibly even heat stroke.

    Now, I am always very happy to see other riders without helmets. Why? Because there are always so many deserving individuals in serious need of organ transplants. When a wedgie throws its Epsilon- rider headfirst over the handlebars (yet another perk of recumbents which physically can not be made to do so), the rider's skull and brains are scrambled but the other vital organs are left perfectly intact. Do you now see what a wonderful service to our Great Society the helmet-less riders are providing? We thank them for their sacrifice!

    Yours in Safe Cycling,

    Frank "Tongue-Firmly-in-Cheek" Paiano
    Ocean Beach
    www.wonderprofessor.com
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      CommentAuthorbikingbill
    • CommentTimeApr 21st 2012
     
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_homeostasis

    "it's been found that drivers behave less carefully around bicyclists wearing helmets than around unhelmeted riders."

    http://www.educatedguesswork.org/movabletype/archives/2006/09/risk_homeostasi_1.html
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      CommentAuthorbikingbill
    • CommentTimeApr 21st 2012
     
    There's a lot of controversy over the extent to which risk compensation is actually a factor in people's behavior, but here's an interesting result from Ian Walker at U. Bath: when riders are wearing helmets, drivers are less careful:

    To carry out the research, Dr Walker used a bike fitted with a computer and an ultrasonic distance sensor to find drivers were twice as likely to get close to the bicycle, at an average of 8.5cm, when he wore a helmet.
    The experiment, which recorded 2,500 overtaking motorists in Salisbury and Bristol, was funded by the Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council.

    Dr Walker, a traffic psychologist from the University's Department of Psychology, said: "This study shows that when drivers overtake a cyclist, the margin for error they leave is affected by the cyclist's appearance.

    "By leaving the cyclist less room, drivers reduce the safety margin that cyclists need to deal with obstacles in the road, such as drain covers and potholes, as well as the margin for error in their own judgements.

    "We know helmets are useful in low-speed falls, and so definitely good for children, but whether they offer any real protection to somebody struck by a car is very controversial.

    "Either way, this study suggests wearing a helmet might make a collision more likely in the first place," he added.

    Dr Walker thinks the reason drivers give less room to cyclists wearing helmets is because they see them as "Lycra-clad street warriors" and believe they are more predictable than those without.
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      CommentAuthorSigurd
    • CommentTimeApr 22nd 2012 edited
     
    WonderProfessor:...Now, I am always very happy to see other riders without helmets. Why? Because there are always so many deserving individuals in serious need of organ transplants...
    ...Do you now see what a wonderful service to our Great Society the helmet-less riders are providing? We thank them for their sacrifice!...
    I shall assume this is sarcasm.

    If not - why all the hate and anger towards fellow cyclists? Aren't we as cyclists divided and marginalized enough as it is?
    • CommentAuthorbilld
    • CommentTimeApr 22nd 2012 edited
     
    Sigurd:If not - why all the hate and anger towards fellow cyclists? Aren't we as cyclists divided and marginalized enough as it is?
    I fully agree.

    Except for salmons..... :face-devil-grin:
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      CommentAuthorsvelocity 
    • CommentTimeApr 23rd 2012 edited
     
    bikingbill:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_homeostasis

    "it's been found that drivers behave less carefully around bicyclists wearing helmets than around unhelmeted riders."

    http://www.educatedguesswork.org/movabletype/archives/2006/09/risk_homeostasi_1.html
    Total and utter rubbish. Not the study or risk homeostasis but anyone who uses that study as a basis for not wearing a helmet. I'm calling BS. I can just hear someone say: "Hey because I don't wear a helmet cars give me extra room when they pass me." Yeah, a whole 3 inches! What about every other obstacle bicyclists face?

    Will your head be 100% safe from all accidents if you wear one, no. But my brain is the only thing that makes me money and supports my family so I'm gonna put a protective shell around it. It at least gives me a sporting chance. Do I care if you wear a helmet or not, yes but it's your decision and I usually don't say anything. However, any reason I've ever heard anyone put forward for not wearing a helmet amounts to total BS. Sorry, but it's true.
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      CommentAuthorbikingbill
    • CommentTimeApr 23rd 2012
     
    Maybe we need helmets that don't look like helmets :-)

    I happen to wear a helmet. Don't know if I would in Holland.
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    Sigurd:
    WonderProfessor:...Now, I am always very happy to see other riders without helmets. Why? Because there are always so many deserving individuals in serious need of organ transplants...
    ...Do you now see what a wonderful service to our Great Society the helmet-less riders are providing? We thank them for their sacrifice!...
    I shall assume this is sarcasm.

    If not - why all the hate and anger towards fellow cyclists? Aren't we as cyclists divided and marginalized enough as it is?


    Uh, I guess it's not working as a joke if you have to explain yourself, huh? My apologies. There was no intent to spread hate and anger towards fellow cyclists. It was meant to deal with a serious topic in a playful manner. Too many times, those of us who advocate always wearing a helmet come across as preaching and overbearing. This is an attempt to poke fun at those who do not believe helmets are important. In my opinion, helmets are absolutely necessary. Again, in my opinion, It is simply absurd to argue otherwise. The most common form of bike accident is simply falling down. (This is why I often did not wear a helmet when I had a trike -- can't fall down!) Smacking your head against the pavement is a sure recipe for winding up in a "persistent vegetative state." I just can't believe that there are those who argue that not wearing a helmet is somehow safer than wearing a helmet. It is folly. (Of course, there are many people who actually vote for Republikans. How do you account for that? Ooops! Sorry, there I go again. I just can't help myself sometimes.)

    So instead of preaching the Gospel According to Helmet Usage, I use the, "Well, the people who don't wear helmets are helping the poor, unfortunate souls who need liver and kidney transplants," tactic. During bike events, it seems to work as it usually gets a good chuckle. Again, my apologies if it came across as hateful and angry.

    Oh, by the way, Wear A Helmet! Your mother and father don't want to outlive you! (How's that approach? Is that better?)
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    Geoff:Didn't help David Ortiz. Around 5 tons of vehicles made sure his Styrofoam and plastic shell were so obliterated, that initial reports believed he WASN'T wearing a helmet.
    Acknowledged. Helmets are meant to protect our heads when we encounter the most common form of bike accidents, falling off the bike. They are also very handy when we are thrown from our bike, say, by an inattentive motorist. I most wholeheartedly agree with your assertion that they are not particularly useful if a 3,000 pound motor vehicle runs over us.

    Your example of taking your helmet off at 3 MPH is the only time the helmet could protect you. Their safety certification tests for the equivalent of falls from less than 12 MPH, not collisions with cars or going over the handlebars at high speeds.
    I would accept this argument if it were shown that pedestrians were helped substantially wearing helmets at 3 mph. I respectfully, yet vehemently, disagree that they are not useful when a cyclist is thrown over the handlebars. Although a helmet will not stop you from breaking your neck, I personally would certainly want the added protection of a helmet if I were to be thrown over my handlebars. (This, of course, can not happen on a recumbent. Ooops! Sorry, could not help it. It's a sickness.)

    Helmets are unnecessary when society accepts bicycling as a legitimate form of transportation. I simply avoid the risky behavior that would lead to a fall (i.e. speeding, running red lights and stop signs, and riding the wrong way, riding drunk). That's all helmets are meant for: falls.
    So you are sure that you will never fall off your bike? Best of luck to you in this regard.

    Again, I want to say that, all in all, I find it tedious and fairly useless to participate in these endless debates about whether or not helmets are important. If you don't want to wear a helmet, then don't wear one! But can we have your liver, lungs, and kidneys when you are declared to be in a "persistent, vegetative state?" Gee, thanks! Here. Please sign this handy organ donation form.

    Respectfully submitted,

    Frank "Can't-believe-I-am-engaging-in-yet-another-endless-helmet-debate" Paiano
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      CommentAuthorHans
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2012 edited
     
    Place a small sandbag in both of these helmets AND A BICYCLE HELMET, then drop them 10' on to concrete. Only one of them might get structurally compromised.Next, wear each one into a sparring match. With one of them, you'll likely get a concussion. It's so hard that your brain must rely on your cerebral spinal fluid to protect it from getting bruised by bumping against your skull. All helmets are better than nothing against an impact when adjusted properly, and when it's socially accepted as stylish to wear sparring gear on your bicycle, will you see some people wearing it. I don't think anyone would argue that it's not safer.
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      CommentAuthorSigurd
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2012
     
    Sigurd:I shall assume this is sarcasm.
    WonderProfessor:Uh, I guess it's not working as a joke if you have to explain yourself, huh? My apologies. There was no intent to spread hate and anger towards fellow cyclists. It was meant to deal with a serious topic in a playful manner.
    That was how I was thinking you intended it to come across - thanks for clarifying.
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      CommentAuthorbikingbill
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2012
     
    svelocity:
    bikingbill:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_homeostasis

    "it's been found that drivers behave less carefully around bicyclists wearing helmets than around unhelmeted riders."

    http://www.educatedguesswork.org/movabletype/archives/2006/09/risk_homeostasi_1.html
    Total and utter rubbish. Not the study or risk homeostasis but anyone who uses that study as a basis for not wearing a helmet. I'm calling BS. I can just hear someone say: "Hey because I don't wear a helmet cars give me extra room when they pass me." Yeah, a whole 3 inches! What about every other obstacle bicyclists face?

    Will your head be 100% safe from all accidents if you wear one, no. But my brain is the only thing that makes me money and supports my family so I'm gonna put a protective shell around it. It at least gives me a sporting chance. Do I care if you wear a helmet or not, yes but it's your decision and I usually don't say anything. However, any reason I've ever heard anyone put forward for not wearing a helmet amounts to total BS. Sorry, but it's true.


    The study may be true but I agree that it isn't a reason for not wearing a helmet IMHO.

    It's a study of driver behavior.

    Maybe it's an argument for riding in non-cycling specific clothing?
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      CommentAuthorbatmick
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2012
     
    If this theory works both ways, maybe we need cycling outfits that make us look more vulnerable...

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      CommentAuthorbikingbill
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2012
     
    Eggxactly!
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      CommentAuthorsvelocity 
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2012
     


    Clear evidence as to why you should wear a helmet.
    • CommentAuthormfutch
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2012
     
    Pedantic victor charlie dissection...go!
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      CommentAuthorbikingbill
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2012
     
    That was DELIBERATE.

    Hope they got the plates.

    I notice the driver didn't stick around.
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      CommentAuthorbikingbill
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2012
     
    The only VC related thing I could say would involve the effectiveness of a volley from a AK47, the most popular weapon of the VC.

    Oh, you mean a different sort of VC...

    Nevermind.
    • CommentAuthorbilld
    • CommentTimeApr 29th 2012 edited
     
    I think it's more likely that the driver was distracted by something (phone, texting, eating?) and veered out of the traffic lane than intentional. I see no previous conflict possibility that would support motive.

    The V.C. theory would be that controlling the traffic lane would have made the driver pay attention, and it probably would have.

    The owner of the vehicle reported the vehicle stolen some time after this incident happened. The police found his car and arrested him and caught him with heroin. He was on probation for a previous weapons conviction. Even if they can't prove that he was driving (they probably can), he's going to be in jail for a while.

    http://blog.sfgate.com/stew/2012/04/27/berkeley-bicyclist-hit-run-video/?tsp
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      CommentAuthorSigurd
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2012
     
    mfutch:Pedantic victor charlie dissection...go!
    On second thought - don't.
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      CommentAuthorsvelocity 
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2012
     
    I was hoping more people would comment on how (in the slow-mo) we can clearly see his head/helmet slam the concrete then slide for a few feet...or how without a helmet he would have been seriously injured...or how about the randomness of the event i.e., how we can't control what happens to us when we bike and preparation is the key.

    Oh well let's not talk about helmets and lets keep talking about how controlling the traffic would have saved the day.

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