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    • CommentAuthorT
    • CommentTimeJun 30th 2014 edited
    Qualcomm Parking Lot Bike Path/Route - Murphy Canyon - CLOSED 6/30/2014 - 8/1/2014 -- Sewer Repair

    For those of you that take the bike path from Ward Rd / Rancho Mission Rd off of Camino Del Rio South, starting today the main artery / connection between the east part of Qualcomm parking lot and the dead end of Murphy Canyon Road (Fry's / Stadium golf driving range). It is closed starting this morning 6/30/2014 till 8/1/2014 (probably longer if typical construction delays occur).

    The suggested route they posted is to go straight up from the Q up Mission Village Drive to Ruffin to Aero east. Pretty steep. Maybe tomorrow i'm going to try Mission Center Road past the new Civita development.

    Photos of the blockage and route suggestions here:
    • CommentAuthorHMeins
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2014 edited
    I-15 shoulder from Friars Rd. to Aero Dr. is the only reasonable alternative. Otherwise all north south access for non-motorized traffic is closed. I'd rather try to force my way through the construction area than confront CHP on the freeway shoulder. Of course, I won't be needing to ride this route again until September, so for me it a moot point. I wonder how many commuters will be affected by this failure to provide access through this "heavily used area."
    • CommentAuthorT
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2014
    I don't think I-15 shoulder from Friars Rd. to Aero Dr is legal .... (not like it is on 5 NB from Genesse dropping down to Sorrento Valley). That one IS legal ... right? I think there is bikes okay signage over there on the 5N.

    For my commute, it's forced me to go an extra 4 miles or so over to Hillcrest > Bachman > Mission Village Dr. ... kind of nice to see new scenery but a total pain in the butt!
    • CommentAuthorHMeins
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2014 edited
    No the I-15 shoulder is NOT legal, but it is the only reasonable alternative route. Another worrisome (and federal) issue is ADA compliance. How is a wheelchair user expected to go up to Serra Mesa? I certainly can't do it on an 81" gear. Maybe Susan Davis can help with this. The current situation is not reasonable. The Mission Center Rd. route has a nasty sting in the tail.
    • CommentAuthorT
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2014
    I did mission center rd. for the first time this morning. It did sting a little. that right hand uphill curve gets people speeding pretty fast.

    I agree that there aren't many other reasonable alternatives. I just wish there were more established alternative routes for times like these. You can't get up the hill to Terra Santa either from Friars. That would have helped at least!
    • CommentAuthorsd_mike
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2014
    I added a post about the closure on my website and a link to this site for updates. Is there a press release available for this closure? I haven't been able to find one.
    • CommentAuthorTallsocks
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2014
    My daily commute is (was?) Hillcrest -> KM via Murphy Canyon. Rode through Murphy Canyon Monday morning just as they were putting the barriers up...didn't test my luck on the way home and just took Aero -> Ruffin S -> Mission Village.

    Morning ride to KM so far hasn't been too bad just loop through Qualcomm to the exit and wait for the stupid light @ Friars (probably the worst part of this detour). Don't think a bike will trigger it so I've run it both days. Nice planning. Mission Village isn't terrible and it's over relatively quick. Traffic doesn't seem to be too bad or too fast. Hang a right on Ruffin S and it will drop you off at Aero. On the way home I've tried both staying on Ruffin S from Aero and its residential parallel Marathon. No real difference. Ruffin/Mission Village wasn't as bad as I thought it would be so I'll probably stick with it over the multiple stop signs through Marathon.

    8/1 can't come soon enough.
    • CommentAuthorT
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2014
    I called the listed public information phone number, but it was just a general phone box to leave a message to get more info on projects.

    Hopefully the work is completed on time, and we should be happy that the City of SD is putting time and money into fixing up the aging sewer / water infrastructure. Always a good thing!
    • CommentAuthorHMeins
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2014
    I hope to see some tangible improvements to this route once the work is completed. The tree roots buckling the surface of the path under Friars Rd. will be fixed. The concrete flood control channel of Murphy Creek will be cleared of Arundo donax and shopping carts so that it will once again control flooding instead of causing it, and the illegal "bike lane" on Murphy Canyon Rd. south of Stonecrest Blvd. will be brought up to code.
    • CommentAuthorjimbaross
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2014
    The lack of notice from the City to - apparently - any of us and the poorly developed and noticed detour are troubling. I was later informed that pedestrians and at least one person using a wheelchair are regular users of the path too. The steep hill detour is NOT adequate!
    I have contacted the City Council members for the adjacent area and the Mayor's office. I and I hope others would join in complaining; lack of notice, bad detour choice, poor signage.

    I have, on behalf of the Coalition, pointed out that a wonderful - flat and short - detour is possible through the Tank Farm if the City got a construction easement. The Tank Farm is straddling what used to be the south end of Murphy Canyon Road. There is a gate from the Tank Farm to the Bike Path just north of the construction area. When I encountered the closed path last week - not a nice surprise - I was escorting a fully loaded bike tourist out of town. We saw no info for the detour. I tried the Tank Farm route and was stopped by their security; but, the fellow gave us a ride in his pickup - approximately 100 yds to the gate.

    In the past when a major bike path route has been closed temporarily for some reason, we have lobbied for and gotten a shuttle or a reasonable detour. This should have happened this time!
    I encourage anyone affected to be a Squeaky Wheel, contact your elected official - City Councilmember and/or the Mayor.
    • CommentAuthordarisd
    • CommentTimeJul 16th 2014
    I am one of the affected. My commute is from Allied Gardens down Twain, over the 15, then up to KM. As you can see in the detour map there is precisely zero detour signage if you are coming from the Mission Gorge area.

    The detour is dangerous as hell. Going up: cars merging on from Friars can't see more than 50 feet around the corner, and they treat it like a freeway onramp. To make matters worse, the gap between bike lane end and bike lane start at the merge has to be 20 meters... if you are not 100% on your game you will die. Going down: the "bike lane" can't be ridden at 35 mph, Monday I had a confrontation with a driver who pushed me out of the right main lane because he wanted to be doing 65 like all the other drivers (ironically I beat him to the light).

    I will be contacting my council member, but honestly I hope I don't die before they complete the work.
    • CommentAuthorHMeins
    • CommentTimeJul 17th 2014
    If anyone is hurt, there is extensive documentation that will be presented in a civil lawsuit.
    • CommentAuthordarisd
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2014
    Answer back from my council member:

    Thank you for contacting Councilmember Sherman. Unfortunately, the temporary closure on Murphy Canyon Drive is an unavoidable as the City is working on a sewer line rehabilitation. We have received word though that the work would be completed earlier August (within the first week) and the bicycle lane will reopen at that time.

    Thank you for the suggestion regarding the tank farm. In order for this to happen the City would have to obtain permission for a temporary easement on their property and various forms would need to be drawn regarding liability. To estimate, this process would take months.

    This means nothing.
    • CommentAuthorsd_mike
    • CommentTimeJul 21st 2014
    I went through that area, going to Fry's, yesterday. Signage sucked for the closure. First sign I saw was AFTER Stonecrest. They really did a poor job of notification and signage on this one.
    • CommentAuthorT
    • CommentTimeJul 23rd 2014
    Just as an update, I rode by last night on my commute home south through the Q parking lot. All fencing still there. Hopefully they stick to the 'Early August' timeline (hopefully August 1!) to finish.
    As of this morning (8/4/14), the sign now reads that the closure will be through 8/7/14.
    • CommentAuthorT
    • CommentTimeAug 4th 2014
    Thanks for checking in on it. I was curious if they were going to stick to 8/1 or stick to the 'first week of august' timeline. hopefully 8/7 holds.
    • CommentAuthorHMeins
    • CommentTimeAug 5th 2014
    Sure hope that veteran in the wheelchair brings an ADA lawsuit! It could set a precedent guaranteeing right of passage through future construction areas where there is no reasonable alternative. He told me he was going to get on the I-15 shoulder at Friars Rd. and wheel himself up to Aero Drive. Wonder if he ever did.
    • CommentTimeAug 7th 2014
    The bike path is reportedly now open.
    • CommentAuthorT
    • CommentTimeAug 7th 2014
    just so it can be part of this historical thread:

    KTA Corp says “unexpected delays” delayed the completion of proj. But will be complete by Sat b/c 1st @Chargers game

    “unexpected delays” means rain.


    I'm glad when it would impact the Chargers the city cracks the whip. When it involves bikes, they let the timeline slide.
    • CommentAuthorKWood
    • CommentTimeAug 12th 2014
    I haven't ridden it yet, but have seen riders going through. I hope they fixed the pavement
    No, they did not re pave the path. It also does not appear that they cleaned the debris out of the embankment either. I would rather they just kept it closed until it was re paved.
    • CommentAuthorT
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2014
    I don't know if repaving was ever part of the agreement. I don't know the details but it would be interesting to see the actual sewer elbow RFP bid / contract award and what demo / cleanup / infra re-paving was agreed upon by the contractor.
    • CommentAuthorT
    • CommentTimeAug 24th 2014
    Now that it is open again, the condition is in okay to poor state. the definitely did not fix anything, and some sections are worse because of the heavy machinery they used on the sewer job.

    Here's a video I took today to try out a new Sony Action Camera with headmount. (GoPro's quality on the Hero 3+ seems a lot better, though both are 1080p HD signal).

    Qualcomm Stadium Bike Path - S to N - 8/24/2014 (After Sewer Construction Closure)

    Video documenting the current condition of Qualcomm Stadium Bike Path - S to N - 8/24/2014 (After Sewer Construction Closure from 6/30/14 - 8/3/14). Some damaged portions of asphalt though majority of sewer repair was off-asphalt in dirt adjacent to pavement. Some cracking and a few major cracks / bumps in need of repair. Major sewer elbow junction was conducted in the month of July 2014, forcing the closure from Qualcomm Stadium up to Murphy Canyon Road. Photos from the closure are here: ... Path was re-opened the day of the Charger's Football first home game. I'm sure some political pressure was put on to make sure it was done by game day to ensure this bike/walking path was open.
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2014
    Thanks a bunch for the video, T, and for taking the time to get those debris off the path, too! :o) (Too many cyclists pass stuff like that without doing anything).

    I'm disappointed they didn't at least fix those raised ruts just north of the chem tanks. :o( Even if they weren't on their work order, it wouldn't have hurt for them to take some initiative.
    • CommentAuthorT
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2014
    Has anyone investigated "who owns" that segment? SD Street Division website does not list that area for selection in the GIS tool for maintenance requests. I assume Councilmember Sherman's office has the jurisdiction on that area, but who maintains it? I know it is City of SD but if not street division, who? Perhaps it is street division but just a special wing / phone call is needed to ask for maintenance / smoothing out of that asphalt cracks.

    I too wish that KTA Construction did some initiative and did extra work, but considering they already went over schedule and still barely finished in time for the Chargers game, I think anything out of scope was not on their priority list.
    • CommentAuthorHMeins
    • CommentTimeAug 26th 2014
    I haven't contacted Sherman's office about this yet, but was stonewalled for years by Zapf and her staffers on the matter. There just aren't enough of us who use this route to make fixing it a priority. All improvements seem to be in District 3. That leaves those of us who commute to Scripps Ranch and points north along I-15 without a voice.

    San Diego River Trail QUALCOMM Stadium Segment Public Workshop


    The San Diego Association of Governments (SANDAG) invites you to a community workshop on a proposed new section of the San Diego River Trail. Attend the meeting to hear plans for the project and provide input on the trail design and features you would like to see.

    WHEN: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 from 6-9 p.m. (NOTE: CORRECTED TIME and corrected Flyer above... See Stephan's note below)
    WHERE: QUALCOMM Stadium Club Room

    What is the QUALCOMM Stadium segment of the San Diego River Trail?

    The QUALCOMM Stadium segment is the next proposed addition to the San Diego River Trail, a regional bikeway that eventually will extend from the Pacific Ocean through Santee. This new section of the trail will extend from the San Diego Trolley station at Fenton Marketplace, travel through the QUALCOMM Stadium parking lot to the east and connect to Ward Road and the Murphy Canyon bike path.

    The San Diego Association of Governments (SANDAG) is working with the San Diego River Conservancy and the cities of San Diego and Santee to complete the San Diego River Trail. Your feedback on the proposed project will help ensure it serves the needs of Mission Valley residents and San Diego River Trail users from around the region.

    For more information:

    Contact Project Manager Stephan Vance at (619) 699-1924

    Si desea obtener información en español
    por favor comuníquese con Paula Zamudio at (619) 595-5610

    (I'll cross-post on a number of forum threads)
    • CommentAuthorT
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2014
    Awesome to see this segment moving forward! Good work Stephan! (who is on the forums here as well!)

    The official river trail page:

    has this to say about this segment (I think this text is 6-12 months old)

    "Current Activities

    San Diego River Trail

    QUALCOMM Stadium Segment. A study is underway to identify a preferred alignment from Fenton Parkway through the QUALCOMM Stadium site to the parking lot exit on the east side at Rancho Mission Rd. The study is scheduled to be complete in the fall of 2014, at which time the preliminary engineering and environmental phase will begin. This work is funded by a grant from the state Coastal Conservancy and with TransNet Active Transportation Program funds."
    • CommentAuthorT
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2014 edited
    Does anyone know where the "WHERE: QUALCOMM Stadium Club Room" is ? ... I'd assume some public-room / access within Qualcomm stadium? I don't go to the Q much, so I don't know. Probably have direction signs from the entrance that night ..

    EDIT: Stephan confirmed: "It's in the stadium. There will be wayfinding signs to show you the way."
    • CommentAuthorStephan
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2014 edited
    Its the 23rd not the 24th, from 6 to 8 p.m. My mistake for posting an incorrect flier.
    • CommentAuthorT
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2014
    Who's coming to the Qualcomm Stadium Club Room tonight 9/23 from 6-8pm for the SANDAG Qualcomm river trail segment meeting? I'll be there!

    Looking forward to hearing if this statement from a Feb 2014 article still holds true on timeline: "SANDAG expects to have a draft environmental document for the project by October and a final environmental document by December 2014."
    Just FYI, I rode through QC today. Headers north pretty early - around 7:45 am - and path was open. No sign or other indication that it might otherwise be closed. Headed back around 11 am and completely sealed off with a guy to make sure no one got through. Not that familiar with the area so I asked what the detour was and he had no clue. (I figured it out in my own.). But sort of ridiculous that I could ride through early without any notice it info about the work, only to be completely stymied 3 hours later.
    • CommentAuthorT
    • CommentTimeOct 4th 2014
    That's really odd. sealed off at the southern terminus / cul-de-sac of Murphy Canyon Road at the start of the bike path?

    There doesn't seem to be any event today: and the path has been open for months now ...

    what was the type of closure? Construction based? Event based? That's very odd.
    It was water department truck and he said they were doing repairs.
    And yes, both directions. Had to head back or Aero Drive.
    • CommentAuthorTallsocks
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2014
    Murphy Canyon bike path closed again today. Roped off and no access.

    No idea when they will re-open. No sign like last time.

    Can't they just give up already?
    • CommentAuthorHMeins
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2014
    What do we need to do to resist this?
    • CommentAuthorT
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2014
    Fwiw I asked council member Sherman's office when the asphault damage and cracking would be fixed that was as a result of the construction sewer elbow work and he said they were waiting till the vegetation / dredging removal of the material in Murphy canyon creek was completed first. He was told timing of the creek work was "soon" from the folks at Qualcomm. I was not able to find a good poc in city of sd engineering to get the dirty gritty details.

    Perhaps the closure is to also address the levee break that occurred from the storms and flooded the Qualcomm parking lot..
    • CommentAuthorHMeins
    • CommentTimeDec 24th 2014
    They're finally going to clear the flood control channel? I was swept away with my bike in a flash flood there in December 2010. I thought I was a goner. Repacked every bearing in the bike when I finally found it in the dark.

    Several people were rescued by lifeguards and fire personnel in the flooding during the last big storm. It's lucky no one drowned while the City spent years thinking about it.
    • CommentAuthorT
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015 edited
    Just as an update to Smorg's post: a friend at the City has confirmed that yes, the work you see is the removal of vegetation in Murphy Canyon Creek. it undergrounds just north of the tank farm, and then daylights again by Stadium Golf driving range. ... it is a nusance for sure for messing with that route, but the veg clearing is definitely essential. the amount of water it held back during the December 12 storm caused the Qualcomm parking lot to flood, but the level was getting high enough to possibly danger the tank farm as well.

    hopefully it is open soon. Dredging is supposed to be complete as of Feb 22.

    I'm not holding my breath that they will do any asphalt / surface repairs of the path though.
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2015
    Thanks for the update, T! :o)
    • CommentAuthorHMeins
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2015
    Is the stadium path to Murphy Canyon Rd. still closed? I'm starting work in Scripps Ranch again next week and won't be able to get there if it's not open. I don't like driving motorcycle or even car on the freeway.
    • CommentAuthorT
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2015 edited
    yes, this is the path in question (Starts on the east side of Qualcomm stadium and heads north under Friars road, and then along side (west side) of the 15 freeway, and east of the tank farm (all protected / lower grade level path) till it opens back up into the dead-ended car cul-de-sac at the south tip of murphy canyon rd, next to the stadium golf driving range.

    this is what is closed because of the construction. hopefully it finishes on time by Feb 22.

    the alternative route is to go up Mission Center Rd straight up from the Q into serra mesa to Aero Dr. that way (at the Montgomery field airport). The path to do this (Steep) route is here: for details .. then you can continue kearny villa rd / ruffin to the north as you would normally.

    good luck on your commute!
    • CommentAuthorHMeins
    • CommentTimeFeb 6th 2015
    I wonder if there is a way around the closure via the entrance to the tank farm at the southern end of Murphy Canyon Rd. No one in the City or at SANDAG has returned calls yet or seems to know anything about the closure. Looks like I'll have to take my chances driving the motorcycle on the freeway for a while.
    • CommentAuthorT
    • CommentTimeFeb 9th 2015
    Yes, HMeins, the entrance to the tank farm that you can jump onto the bike path (at the dead end of the tank farm road) is a way around the closure ... I did some investigating and the closure is really just the small segment under the San Diego Mission Rd. bridge.

    This route is open and I saw several people use this way tonight:

    Murphy Canyon Rd transition to bike path is open:

    Then you pop out just before the San Diego Mission Rd. bridge overpass:

    and turn left out of the tank farm truck gate onto San Diego Mission Rd.

    then quickly cross the street to the yellow closed gate (which you can squeeze around and enter the Q parking lot)

    and then cut over to the east side of the Q parking lot where the construction closure ends:

    Hopefully they have it all cleaned up / back open in 2 weeks as planned. At least it isn't a full closure like the Sewer Elbow work was last summer!
    • CommentAuthorHMeins
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th 2015
    Thanks for checking that out! All my calls to city agencies on the subject have not been returned. I'm back on track to start my Scripps Ranch commute again.