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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 16th 2009 edited
     
    Use this thread to bring cyclists together and bring real change to the cycling landscape of San Diego.
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      CommentAuthorMhotai
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2009
     
    Any events that we can help with?
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      CommentAuthordanarel
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2009
     
    i think bike advocacy is going to be one of the most important things to happen in San Diego for all of us. If we can all pull together to make this city more bike friendly and make drivers pay more attention to us, I think real things could change.

    i have worked w/ animal advocacy for many years and have found that change can come from small numbers if you do it righ, and would be more than willing to apply what I learned from that into helping this city take on a more bike friendly approach to things.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 18th 2009
     
    totally. Jim Baross signed on as a member here and hopefully he'll start posting. I think there's a lot of people that want to help but don't know how or where. This thread hopefully will tie it all together.
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      CommentAuthorWilliam
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2009
     
    Jim Baross is a great man to meet: he has seen many years behind the handlebars, and can teach almost anyone a thing or two about cycling in traffic. I'll gather up some of the local advocacy groups and post them up here.

    I was not a fan of the San Diego Bike Coalition, but lately, have been kind of changing my mind. Despite some issues with a few of their members (who tend to be really really exclusive, but when you meet them in person, are complete idiots and scared of their own shadow ~ in traffic), they have been accomplishing a huge amount of things.. You might call them "little" but they are a collective, and have the ear of government in a professional way that most of us don't.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 21st 2009
     
    so if anyone has suggestions for SD please speak up. being quiet helps nobody.

    do you see a bike commuter issue on the streets? speak up!

    have a plan for activism and want advice or manpower? speak up!

    have you been to other cities with bike plans you like? speak up!

    i know you guys have opinions. share them.
    • CommentAuthorDavbu4
    • CommentTimeJan 21st 2009
     
    I have a friend in Portland,Ore., bike Messenger and I think that they have instituted some new bicycling programs, I'll try to get a hold of him and see what is hapening up there.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 21st 2009
     
    i like this idea. we have thousands of streets going in all directions. i really don't think cars need every single one of them. do you?

    " Portlands bike boulevards"
    • CommentAuthorDavbu4
    • CommentTimeJan 21st 2009
     
    In Europe, don't some of the cities use streets designated only for bikes
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeJan 21st 2009
     
    Portland is a great example for San Diego. we have the good weather on our side. use this forum to get more people bike commuting. more commuters, more activism, and a bike friendly government is what we need. Portland votes bike commuters into public office. we should be doing the same.

    " Portlands Bike Scene"
    • CommentAuthorDavbu4
    • CommentTimeJan 21st 2009
     
    I can't wait to get a bike and start riding, because I would be going every where,
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      CommentAuthorWilliam
    • CommentTimeJan 22nd 2009 edited
     
    [quote][cite] Davbu4:[/cite]I can't wait to get a bike and start riding, because I would be going every where,[/quote]


    Are you having trouble getting a bike? I have a semi- complete bike. It can be either fixed, or single speed. It will need the front wheel replaced (the wheel can't be trued, the spokes are frozen in place), pedals, bar tape and brakes. Other wise, it's decent. It's a 56cm, 1970's Nishiki that's been stripped, rattlecanned, and gone over pretty well. Good starter single speed. I might still have pedals.

    It's yours if you're in need. From "active" to a "vet".
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      CommentAuthortawnya
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2009
     
    The times I have learned the most are when I've been out with experienced riders. Whether it has been asking questions or just observation, I've learned a lot to keep myself safe. I would love to see an occasional bike safety ride. A few experienced riders in a group of newbies that are willing to answer questions and offer suggestions could make San Diego a safer place to ride. I know there's a lot more I can learn from how to maneuver vehicle traffic, the best ways to make myself visible, riding in groups, choosing routes, all the way down to the best tools to keep in my bag. While I know I can go in to Velo Cult and ask any question I can come up with, there's a lot of things I only think of while I'm out and about. Though not a fully formed idea just yet, it's something that I would be willing to put a lot of effort in to, as it would make commuting more regularly a better option.
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      CommentAuthorzen@zero
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2009
     
    I agree. ^^^
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      CommentAuthorWilliam
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2009
     
    Hello everyone,

    I'll try to keep this short.

    A while back, I had attended a SDCBC meeting, and had "listened in" on their email listings. What struck me was their disconnect from the younger crowd. Many viewed the younger crowd, and Critical Mass as counterproductive. When I suggested they attempt to "bridge the gap", it was scoffed at, almost as a whole. In disgust, I decided not to join SDCBC. SDCBC seemed hesitant to work with CM, perhaps to retain their image as a legitimate organization that works with local government in a productive "let's solve the issues" light.


    The other side.

    When I suggested to Critical Mass attendees and some of the younger riders that SDCBC was an option. Most either didn't know about SDCBC, or derided them as "crotchy old folks". Critical Mass has some major detractor issues as well, to wit, negative interaction, and also some CM people just show up for the mass anarchy that is CM. SDCBC was viewed by many as part of the government (which they are not), and thus, not legitimate.


    In looking at this objectively from a detached standpoint, it seems both groups have a similar end state desired. And while the methods are objectionable to both sides, there is a common energy.

    So, what I suggested is that the CM folks come to SDCBC with their energy, focus, and drive. And that SDCBC step in as well, and welcome come of the younger/CM crowd too. Sadly, I lost focus, and didn't pursue it as vigoursly as I could have.

    Scott, a friend of mine from Fraser Cycles, went to the last SDCBC meeting the other week, and proactive pushed for SDCBC to set up a booth at the Fountain prior to CM. In a phone message, he told me that they agreed to attend. I need to call him, and get a hold of the SDCBC rep, as I'd love to help.

    My hope is that the two groups can find some common ground. The outcome, is that SDCBC gets an infusion of "new blood" that represents the greater cycling community, and that people who attend CM out of frustration have a viable, perhaps more productive way of identifying problems that has a positive ear of local government. My intent is work solely as liaison between the two groups, starting by engaging both sides at CM. With new members, and perhaps a new focus, SDCBC can tap into the huge ground swell that CM has enjoyed over the last year, and with that work towards making San Diego the bike friendly city we know it can be.

    But, to do this, I'll need help. We need to have people who can talk to the CM crowd about the benefits of SDCBC, and as well, people who can talk to the SDCBC about their frustrations, problems, concerns and issues. My idea is a very broad one, and truthfully, I have no clue as to how to focus efforts or what direction to push. But, the ground work being, that a dialogue is started. Anyone wish to help? Perhaps people who are willing to come to CM to at least work with the booth, mingle with the crowd, and start to figure out where we need to go, and just "listen" to what has to be said on both sides...
    • CommentAuthorTom@VC
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2009
     
    I typed a much longer version of this but it got zapped.

    Velo Cults flier idea in the other thread is a great idea. Along with that, I would love to see someone get on a PA before the ride starts, explain what CM is and then read over the flier. Emphasizing that CM is not about being adversarial to motorists but about awareness and educating them.

    SDCBC should definately set up a tent. As an organization they should just call themselves NEUTRAL on CM. Maybe that will exclude some, but not as many as being pro or against. Its a varied community and CM should not be something that divides people who are interested in being active in making SD a better place for cyclists.
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      CommentAuthorMhotai
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2009
     
    I think one of the coolest placest I've visited was Amsterdam. There were bicycles EVERYWHERE - and I think most bikes had never seen a drop of oil in their life. Professionals and young people all use bikes as their major mode of transportation. It would be so rad if one day San Diego could be like this. I just wanted to share some photos from Amsterdam. I love the bicycle "parking lot" by the train station. Also, bikes have their own lanes and signals.
    Europe068


    Europe025

    • CommentAuthorEndorphin
    • CommentTimeJan 28th 2009
     
    People don't think twice about jumping on a bike to ride around. Everybody does it from kids to grandparents. Is it any surprise how thin and attractive the Dutch are?

    I know for a fact that if bike lanes weren't ditched and bike paths were adopted that more people would ride. Every where in SD that you see bike paths you see tons and tons of commuters. People want a peaceful ride. Cars suck to share the road with.
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      CommentAuthorWilliam
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2009 edited
     
    ****Forwarded********* The City of San Diego is in the first phase of updating the San Diego Bicycle Master Plan. The Bicycle Master Plan establishes citywide goals, objectives, and policies that guide the development of the city's bicycle facilities and bicycle-related programs. The current Bicycle Master Plan was prepared in 2002. The updated Bicycle Master Plan will provide a renewed vision and action plan to support bicycling in San Diego based on evaluation of the current plan and changes in San Diego's bicycle user needs, growth, development, regulations, and policy context. To participate and stay informed about the plan's development: - Visit the City's Bicycle Planning web page <a href="http://www.sandiego.gov/planning/programs/transportation/mobility/bicycle.shtml">Planning web page</a> - For information related to the plan and to take the bicycle user survey <http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=HwtIfqNHHL939XC2ZosA3w_3d_3d> .<a href="http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=HwtIfqNHHL939XC2ZosA3w_3d_3d">Bicycle user survey</a> - Attend the public workshop on June 6, 2009! - Distribute the attached project fact sheet to interested friends and colleagues and encourage them to get involved. Please take the survey by March 13th, so that there would be adequate time to analyze the data. Thank you for your participation.
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      CommentAuthorWilliam
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2009
     
    ^^^^ Please take time to fill one out!!
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      CommentAuthordanarel
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2009
     
    i filled it out this morning.
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      CommentAuthorzen@zero
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2009
     
    Did mine this morning. I'm looking forward to attending the public workshop in June.
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      CommentAuthorWilliam
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2009
     
    I have a problem: I'm not sure this list was distrubted in a manner that reaches as many cyclist as it could: so, if you've got a message board you post too (other than here) email list, blog, what ever: please put it out. It would be best if it more accurately represented san diego.
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      CommentAuthorbilld
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2009 edited
     

    I wish there was a way to educate the public, cyclists and drivers alike, about California Vehicle code 21202:

    California Vehicle Code Section 21202 - The keep right rule for bicycles.

    I find it frustrating how often I get honked at and yelled at when riding in narrow lanes because hardly anyone seems to know what the keep right rule for bicycles actually is. It would also be nice if drivers would respect 21750:

    California Vehicle Code Section 21750 - The safe passing rule.

    Actually, if drivers would just respect 21750, then I wouldn't feel a need to take the lane so often.

    • CommentAuthorEndorphin
    • CommentTimeFeb 23rd 2009
     
    There has not been much talk about advocacy yet. Any events happening soon or maybe classes? I guess the first thing is to simply get more people riding so there is more of a "voice". The Down Townies ride is great i think. Hopefully it will get non-riders showing up. That would be the best possible outcome. Then perhaps we can have more weight with the city.
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      CommentAuthorWilliam
    • CommentTimeFeb 23rd 2009 edited
     
    <a href="http://www.ridelink.org/">San Diego County Ride Share/Mass Transit/Bike to work link.</a> Neat site for San Diego: you can "match" with other fellow commuters, log your miles, rules about the trolley and busses, etc... Interesting if you kick it around a little.
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      CommentAuthorWilliam
    • CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
     
    I'm going to go to CM early to help hand out SDCBC flyers: they said they will have thier banner up and current packages to hand out. Unfortunately, I'll head home after that. I have 4 250 word essays AND a final to study for. Night school.. sucks.
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      CommentAuthorAndy
    • CommentTimeFeb 26th 2009
     
    I'm a Planning intern with the city of Escondido, which is certainly a much smaller operation than in San Diego proper, but I wanted to mention how important it is to be vocal and write your city council and members of the city staff who deal with bicycle issues. If there's a spot that you hate to ride, but feel like you have to, like some of those mentioned in the Best Routes thread, write a nice letter or email. Ask them if the issue is addressed in the Bicycle Master Plan, and if there's anything they plan to do about it, or if there's an alternate route that they expect cyclists to use. Send it every couple of weeks, or as often as you have an issue there.
    Bikes are kind of a big deal right now, with state mandates coming down about greenhouse gas reduction and regional planning efforts to reduce total Vehicle Miles Traveled throughout california. They get double points for seeming "green." You'll be taken pretty seriously if you mention Assembly Bill 32 or Senate Bill 375.

    Also, if you want to have funny arguments with motorists, write letters to the editor. The North County Times will publish anything sent to them, but larger papers might not.

    Cohesive coalitions are great, but you can be heard as an individual because not that many people give a rat's ass about city government, even though they decide what gets built and how.
    • CommentAuthorreverend
    • CommentTimeFeb 27th 2009
     
    just had a friend send me this link to a SD Bicycle survey
    [[_linker_]]
    please fill this thing out...every little bit counts
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    It's so refreshing to read everyone's comments! I'm a graduate student in Architecture and I have devoted my thesis to the development of an extenxive Bike Paths system throughout the city, to make biking a viable form of transporation. As an avid rider myself, I often get frustrated at the lack of resources in a city so ideal for biking. Just yesterday riding from North Park to downtown via Florida Canyon, I got stuck where the bike paths breaks at the I-5 on-ramp. It's situations such as these that remind me that we have a long way to go before biking is taken seriously in San DIego, on a planning AND citizen level (ala Portland) But so motivating to know that there are enough of us who care!
    • CommentAuthorhakki
    • CommentTimeApr 2nd 2009
     
    and folks I don't mean this as a flame and let me first say I'm a big supporter of critical mass. But people PLEASE do not ride the sidewalks down the Prado when you take off for CM.
    People are attending gallery functions, the theatre and the Prado Restaurant. Are you going to encounter an automobile on those sidewalks? No. You may hit a pedestrian (not the enemy) and it may be someone elderly. Worse yet, it may be someone elderly and highly influential in city affairs. This does NOT help the cause. In fact it could hurt it tremendously. So please by all means enjoy CM and the rolling wave of anarchy, but please always ask oneself, is this action productive or counterproductive. The true joy of an actual anarchic situation is one doesn't need rules as everybody 'governs' their own behavior. If you were taking you moms, or grandmoms out for a meal and or a evening of culture, having it ruined with a trip to the hospital because of such an action would definitely sour ones perspective.

    peace all, rubber side down:face-smile:
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    Saw this (www.mybikelane.com) on www.ecovelo.info, a neat blog I frequently read. Have you seen many bike lane violations in SD? I've been (w?)racking my brain for any bike lane violations I have personally seen, but can't think of any.
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      CommentAuthorDrJay
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2009
     
    thats because there are not enough bike lanes in San Diego...
    • CommentAuthorkyle
    • CommentTimeApr 24th 2009
     
    I've definitely had problems in UTC with landscapers parking their trucks and trailers in the bike lanes. Not sure what to do about it. Posting their license plate doesn't seem like enough. And trying to get the police to write them a ticket seems like too much.
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    What about writing and keeping on hand some 'jerk' tickets like for people who park in ridiculous ways in parking garages? But for bike lane violators. Jeez, midway through typing that sentence I realized it seemed like more hassle than it'd be worth.
    • CommentAuthorkyle
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2009
     
    Here's some possible resources for getting bike lane issues resolved. The "Just Fix It" series on Union Tribune's web site ran an article about getting brush cleared from a bike lane. And from the article, here's the person working for the city who can fix these things:

    "WHO'S RESPONSIBLE: Hasan Yousef, who can be reached at (619) 527-7504 or hyousef@sandiego.gov. "
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      CommentAuthorWilliam
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2009
     
    <blockquote><cite> kyle:</cite>"WHO'S RESPONSIBLE: Hasan Yousef, who can be reached at (619) 527-7504 or hyousef@sandiego.gov. "</blockquote>

    Good stuff!
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      CommentAuthorSigurd
    • CommentTimeMay 6th 2009
     
    I got fed up with this traffic light intersection that I ride through twice daily: The light tripping loops embedded in the roadway fail to recognize me or my bike (there are no cutouts in the asphalt). I have had a number of solutions available to me - walk onto the sidewalk to push the ped button, wait until a car arrives, or run a red light, neither of which are satisfactory.

    So I wrote a letter to the Traffic Engineering Dept. at the City, explaining the problem, and requesting that the traffic lights are set to cycle every so often, even if the switch loop has not been triggered.

    Has anyone else here successfully lobbied the City to re-program traffic lights in this manner?

    Anyways, I will keep you updated.
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      CommentAuthorFranzypoo
    • CommentTimeMay 6th 2009
     
    I reported a couple of traffic lights in low traffic area that wouldn't detect bicycles to the city's Street Division website. I *think* they fixed it so it became more sensitive, but maybe it was just my luck. When I did it a couple years ago, they emailed me updates up to the completion of the service request.

    http://apps.sandiego.gov/streetdiv/
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeMay 6th 2009
     
    There was whispers of a demostration a little while back about that issue. People wanted to have a few hundred cyclists comletely block one of these intersections in a busy local for a day. Calling the media to report on it was the other part of it.
    • CommentAuthorhakki
    • CommentTimeMay 7th 2009
     
    and folks, there is a Bike to the Ballpark ride coming in June. (June 7 I think) We need to have a petition for us Up-Towners so we can get bike lockers (like at the Coaster Stations) installed at the Ball Park. We have no transit lines and can be downtown on 2 wheels in under 10 minutes.
    Bike lockers and bike related promotions as such need to be supported and used. How nice would it be to have a CM to the ballpark?
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      CommentAuthorWilliam
    • CommentTimeMay 11th 2009
     
    <blockquote><cite> Velo Cult:</cite>There was whispers of a demostration a little while back about that issue. People wanted to have a few hundred cyclists comletely block one of these intersections in a busy local for a day. Calling the media to report on it was the other part of it.</blockquote>

    The idea of that happening actually got them to work on several lights. Scott D. worked with a city rep: but only two cyclist arrived to help out. But, the rep actually figured out how to diagnose it. I'll email scott and see what the outcome was.
    • CommentAuthorbinky
    • CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
     
    Don't forget to recruit non-cycling coworkers to ride on Friday, Bike to Work Day. Once people see how much nicer their commute is, it might mean a few more cars off the road.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
     
    i have a love hate relationship with bike to work day.

    good

    -it gets people on a bike for a day.

    bad

    - they grab their mountain bike or beach cruiser and labor more than needed.
    - the bike is not equipped to carry anything so they struggle carrying things.
    - the bike is in disrepair making the ride hard.
    - they don't know the safe and fun route so they get a bad taste in their mouth
    - they get a flat and can't fix it, or they drop a chain and feel helpless.
    - they are not in shape and hate every minute of it.

    it's a good cause i guess but i don't see it working to keep people commuting. i've said it before but getting people started with daily chores like shopping, coffee shops, movie theaters, etc is a better way to go about it. eventually they will try riding to work and they'll know what they are doing by then. i see too many people helpless on the side of the road on bike to work day. it's almost sad seeing what people are trying ride on too.

    am i alone in this? like i said, it's a noble effort but i don't see it working after all these years.
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      CommentAuthoril Pirati
    • CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
     
    It took me several dedicated weeks to get into the groove of commuting by bike. You have to figure out what to wear, what to carry, how to carry it, what route to take, how long it will take, etc. Once you get it all figured out its great, but one day, I agree, can be more aggrevating than inspiring.
    I was actually really looking forward to riding in on Friday to see if there was a noticable turn-out, but I have to stay at work overnight on Thursday, so I won't be commuting in. Bummer.
    • CommentAuthorbinky
    • CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
     
    I agree with your reasoning, but I don't want to write it off completely. I will be manning one of the pit stops so that I can try to help people out with advice/questions. I have been trying to work on the cyclists I know that drive to work. At least they have a better idea of what to expect.
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
     
    if at all possible pick a person or two that shows interest in bike commuting, ride to their house and escort them to work and back. it's going way out of your way but it's only for a day and you may be getting someone else on a bike. they can learn from you and you would be showing them the correct route.

    im going to hang out in front of the shop to see if i can help anyone. lots of people use 30th for commuting.
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      CommentAuthorSigurd
    • CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
     
    binky: I will be manning one of the pit stops so that I can try to help people out with advice/questions.
    Velo Cult:im going to hang out in front of the shop to see if i can help anyone. lots of people use 30th for commuting.
    Any chance we can get our SDCommuter cards out to those pit stops. VC and Binky?
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      CommentAuthorVelo Cult
    • CommentTimeMay 12th 2009
     
    im not even sure where these stops are. is there a list somewhere? thats a good idea
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